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[shivayoga] Amrith Brahma Baptises a Crow in Croatia

2008-09-04T09:28:00.001-07:00

Further Divine Sanskrit Scriptures and Namasmarana of The
Shiva YOgi SOul MAHAPRTIBHAWAN HAS the following Hidden Secrets of
GOD in his name:

MahapratiBhawan has

Matha Mithra ( mithra means friend Matha is mother)

Pitha Pithra Pawithra

Amrith AMITABHA !!! ( AMithabha was a Buddha before Shakyamuni)

Matha Vahana ( vahana is vehicle in sanskrit)

Vamana Is sky and VAMANA IS also a Brahmin Avatar of Vishnu

Further divine names..

BRAHMIN ! Brahma !! Vamana !

Prathamai ( Sanskrit .. it means the day following Full mon or new
moon day )

Rati Brahma

Vahanaq VImana !!

Bharatha Matha !

Mahatha Mathaha !

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Fwd: [19 Isaiah] Fwd: The Mahdi (2nd, 10th or 12th coming/immam) and Advaita-Tantra

2008-08-27T01:27:00.003-07:00

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From: chittaranjan naik <chittaranjan_naik@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Subject: [19 Isaiah] Fwd: The Mahdi (2nd, 10th or 12th coming/immam) and Advaita-Tantra
To: isaiah19 <isaiah19@yahoogroups.co.uk>

--- In KingMessiahSaviourMahdiRajRamAgartthShamballa@yahoogroups.com,

"Ralph Bakr" <108@...> wrote

on June 14, 2006:

Dear brothers and sisters, It is a pleasure to know i can reach you like this. This egroup (IZLAM, BAKR) gathers people who firmly believe in the return of the messiah. They prepare to obey/serve him. Their desire is to be a servant, slave, 'nail' and warrior in his worldly and other-worldly empire. That makes this group of people religious in the sense that they are organised as an ancient and strictly traditional brotherhood. Because all of them obey the same Gd, their faith is mono-theistic. Many people belief in the return of a certain person under whom all the peoples of the planet unite. In arab this person is called the mahdi. Islam is the brotherhood who prepares to obey the madhi. Once the madhi is recognised, muslims will pray and bow towards the mahdi. This means to pledge and to renew their faith and loyalty. Untill and beyond the portal of death. Much more than hundreds of millions of people will be the army and islamic nation of the mahdi. Previously this egroup was called Advaita-Tantra. What is the difference? There is really no difference! What does it matter in which language the name is? If some scared hindus unsubscribe because they see a word that hits a red button in their brain, if was good they proceeded their studies elsewhere. Many people are doing valuable work. The idea is that we are courageous enough to consider a few ideas. And then we are asked to make a decision. There are many names in this category for the man who comes at the end of times like 'messiah', the mahdi or mujaddid. Many people believe in the return of a certain saviour, messiah, prophet or second (christian), 10th (hinduism) or 12th (islam)coming. There is an ancient brotherhood who prepares for the rule of this man. Perhaps you are also part of that brotherhood. Would you be loyal to the Mahdi regardless of his race? The word goes around that this man is currently alive as a boy in islamic circles. As a 'twain'. But let's be realistic: throughout time, the situation was very bad with obnoxious and unbearable suffering and the people dreamt of a man who could restore order and dignity. Why would he come so in the very beginning of the 3rd millennium? Undoubtedly he will be able to address the poor people by life- and translated broadcasts. Worldwide. Most likely he will also be able to get the majority of the muslims behind him. This can all happen within one day. If he commands jihad, they will go into death for their leader. The martyr-death is glorified in Islam. Some people fear that a tremendous clash is upcoming. And perhaps it is inevitable now that the US army marched into the heart of Islam (Baghdad, Iraq). Iraq has several important religious places of pelgrimage. These places are important to me. They were built by people i respect. Much more noisy than those who fear the next war, are those who long for what they hope and pray will be the last battle. Their army is roudy. It is growing in strength and in fact invincibility. If Maharishi Mahesh Yogi wants to bring world-peace, he will need an alliance with one of the mulla's or ayatollahs. But the mahdi? I would like to draw a certain picture that is possible. Nobody can foresee the future, but such series of events is not unlikely at all and THIS is perhaps the real reason why the US intelligence is nestling in Afghanisthan, Iraq, Kashmir and Pakistan: the Mahdi is expected to currently grow up in those regions. The US is eager on spotting him before he appears on worldwide television. To offer other indoctrination. This boy is probably learning combat-strategies at early age. Islam is an active faith. The loyalty of millions of men and warriors lies with this brotherhood. They have patience but they prepare themselves. Their number is expected to grow into billions literally. I bring a certain mix of religion/prophesy. It is Himalayan Mysticism fused with Islam. We call it =Lam. It is remembering and preparing how to serve the mahdi. Many people consider all talk about an upcoming messiah wasted time of idealists and lunatics. They forget that now there is mass-media. I ask people to consider what will happen when many different schools and sects in Islam unite under one leader. Anyone who studied the Koran knows that these people are loaded to fight. They are simply waiting. Waiting. In poverty. Surpressed. Invaded by the enemy and 'the evil empire'. To me it is surprising how they can wait so long while having to bear much humiliation, discrimination and poverty. What is only proper defense or their only way to defend or to make a statement, we should not lable with 'terrorism'. Muslims have revolutionary ideas but they are obedient and wait. They are trained to possibly wait their entire life. Without losing faith. The muslim faith, command and lifestyle (directed towards compassion- in-action and unwavering discipline) is strong. How many people do you know who have radical ideas, heart, will-power and are obedient? It is an interesting sort of new breed of men. The current political leaders lack the vision to steer humanity through a necessary quantum-breakthrough. They have faith only in the old ways. We can not reach our destination in the year 2012 by looking all the time in the rear-mirror. Vision provides the way and not conflicts and disaster. New leadership is going to take over all positions of control. All souls will resonate to the heart of the mahdi. He bring the higher vision; a vision that no ordinary man can conceive of yet. We expect new interested out of the West for the Brotherhood (army) of the mahdi. Some people there also have revolutionary ideas. If you as a reader reject the Jihad, you may as well unsubscribe from this egroup. The ideal state (200 %) can not be achieved without inner nor outer battle. Obedience has to be trained so that patience results. Only with this elixer of loyalty and faith, can the upcoming Jihad be won. The Mahdi will establish the Islamic State. How can any civilian prepare? By choosing for the Islam or =Lam, one seeks the guidance of an immam, ayatollah, sheikh or mulla. This person is for you the spokesperson of the madhi. Everything he says to you, is infused by the energy of the mahdi and you take nothing lightly. Any instruction or even advice is basically a command for you unless there are of course reasons you can not participate in or execute something for other important reasons. E.g. pertaining to family. But a Brotherhood is firstly a brotherhood! The prophets, sages and seers (Peace be with them) left us all clear instructions. =Lam is a front portal, especially designed for westerners, to learn more about the islamic state and to develop faith in the mahdi. It is a loyalty of brotherhood and sisterhood. The latest and most ancient prophesy - that we in =Lam subscribe to - is that the messiah comes as a Twain. When the madhi will die in battle ... and this is almost inevitable ... his twain (teacher, wife, sister, lover) will lead humanity to peace. If this is your vision and you accept this vision as knowledge, feel free to learn more about =Lam. Kind greetingsz, Asalaamaleikum Ralph Bakker. --- End forwarded message ---

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Dear Friends, Dear Sisters And Brothers, Dear Spiritual Soul,

Shivayoga is one of oldest technique concentration involved in all
religious teachings (and which today present) and open for each Soul.

Please note that this our group is not a criticism of any person
whatsoever, but instead a specific point intended to foster a true
spiritual understanding of the Shivayoga philosophy. Shivayoga
philosophy is one from deepest source for direct experience of God.
This Divine perspective is full practically, historically,
scientifically, poetically, philosophically, spiritualitally,
mistically and devotionally part of unity with God.

May God Bless your Soul with best understooding Shivayoga philosophy

Lord Branko in exhile

Re: [19 Isaiah] Fw: Building the Rainbow Bridge

2008-08-27T01:27:00.001-07:00

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:16 PM, chittaranjan naik <chittaranjan_naik@yahoo.com> wrote:

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From: Tryambaka XIII <108@...>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:05
To: <rainboww@...>
Subject: Building the Rain-bow Bridge

Dear rain(wo)men,

In the beginning of 2003 i announced this year to be the Year of Faith. I also said that this could well be the Year of Fate. Linguistically they sound practically the same. What is the difference in reality?

What is the difference between Faith and Fate?

Faith is active. It is alive and dynamic.

Fate has an air of passiveness and fatalism.

During the year i had the strong urge to come up with a new description of my/our 'path' and organisation.
Teacher of Gurdjieff to Gurdjieff:

"Our organisation is very complex;
You must either change everything or nothing !"

The Path of Yoga, Beauty & Delight was no longer appropriate. It did not describe the actual situation not does it describe the direction that we are taking. The faith is shallow.

In the old days in India, the kings rode out into the jungle when they heard there was a saint living deep in the forests to seek His blessings and wisdom. But these days people flock to the ones with name and fame.

The Matrix-trilogy prooved to be highly interesting after all, after my initial doubts with 'Reloaded'. Most interesting was maybe the introduction of the character of the Merovingian. In the middle ages, the Merovingians protected Europe against the invasion of Islam. They protected their faith with their life.

Who are we now? What is the invasion 'against which we need to fight and to unite ourselves'? Arthur was created and blessed by Avalon with the almost impossible tasc to unite several traditions in order to live on. Is our life at stake?

This realisation will change our outlook on life. Millions of people had not realised the danger. Untill the explosions took place in Instanbul, Tikrit, Jerusalem, Lochem (Mt Kailasa) ...

It is difficult to work together. Ego has its very specific solution(s) which always work. It creates 'miscommunication' (this miscommunication always happens in the mind and not in actuality), doubts, it distorts, it hesitates, projects and renders superior possibilities like 'trodding my own path'.

And of course you have to trod your path and we each have our own style and execution of free-will – most certainly in LHP. One person is a mother of three children, her husband is an entrepreneur with lots of worries and there are heavy challenges in the family and circle of friends. Besides some very close people are struggling for their life. And amidst all the chaos we try to lead a life of spirituality. And still all of us are discovering what that is. Tantra is in the ordinary experiences of life. It renders the possibility to make them extra-ordinary.

Right now we are all terrestial beings (earthbound). Vamacara is the reverse path. This creates the EXTRA. We are in the process of becoming or realising extra-terrestial beings. The terrestial direction is according to gravity and downwards. Make sure to understand that even 'up' and 'down' are relative notions in this magical universe where the earth swings through space with dazzling speeds. Extra-terrestial provides another direction. This is the meaning of "vama". Even 'left' and 'reverse' are not perfect translations.

Swami Sri Sudip (former teacher of Ralph) is an exponent of the traditional Left-Hand Path. But there are thousands and most likely much more people who walk this path with great courage and skill.

Kashmir Saivism is the Path of Desire. But what does this mean? I know you are all very diligent students and practitioners of Tantra, but i doubt whether anyone of you is able to give a thorough sattarka explanation of the why and how of 'The Path of Desire'. It is indeed the Path of Desire but Tantra is not theory but application. This we have to understand and ESPECIALLY APPLY more and better.

Tantra is the Leela. The entire life and the universe is the Leela. We are players in and of that Leela but need upgrades dramatically. In RevolUtions, Neo is 'caught'/trapped in the infamous Inbetween. He got out at the wrong station! Many people stay there forever. This nihilistic state is accurately described in Buddhism and especially in non-dual Kashmir Saivism. For these kind of things it is very important to have a living guide AND to study the worthwhile scriptures. Tantra is the kundalini-sadhana. This does not all automatically go right as one would tend to think. God is misschieveous ! Many people on the track go insane. Look around you! Wanna find the most wacko people on the planet? They do groups on Tantra and 'the like'.

Sjamanism stirs powerfull energies.

A tantrik is a sort of sjaman. He stirs powerful energies. They are unmistakable.

When Grace obviously flows, something needs to be uphold! This has clearly not happened yet ...

There needs to be an ambiance to do the most heavy work otherwise the energy is lost. It simply vaporises. The ambiance is love, care, authenticity, joy, adventure and courage. In this ambiance the wisdom will enter and She will make Herself known. Right now She hardly and that is logical allright. The love, steadiness and respect has to be there. Those are the wings upon which She enters. And we need to spread our wings!

The Path of Desire is that we take the desire or lust and enter it. With courage, relaxation, commitment and alertness. Not merely with the animal. We invite the master-energy to be with us. We always bow first to the master and THEN we invite the Goddess. Tantra is the act of refinement and the Merovingian was a highly refined man. He fought for a worthy cause. What was/is his cause?

The process of taking the lust or desire and then refine it and allow the mastering to happen is the Path of Yoga, Beauty & Delight. But many of you choose otherwise and it is fine with me. We are now in the Kaos-Kult of the Dark Goddess. Confronting the Black Goddess is the most difficult spiritual practise. There are many thousands of people worldwide who actually want to follow this path and it is YOUR tasc to find them. I have designed the plan that i personally gurantee will work and it will open several interesting doors (Upgrades) for all of us. This is the LHP! It is the Path of Courage.
But how is it with the faith?

Maybe through these and other writings 'The Path of Desire' is now clear to you, although that does not mean that you are walking it, understand it or can apply and live it. Therefor we need to do much more work. It will require many retreats with good groups. I already had several very good groups i must say. But none of them is able to really carry something precious into the future. For that 'the Ring' will have to be destroyed and a Fellowship (The Resistence) has to be in full operation.

The Kaos-Kult of the Dark Goddess is also built with the five floors. The first floor we all know well and many of us have travelled back and forth from one to two and back, but this floor actually can be passed only once and then it is final and for the rest of your life ..... basically. Floor two indiactes that you decide to enter the nowadays called: Kaos-Kult of the Goddess. And why would someone? Well actually the question is more 'why would You not?' Of course we all want to be free and independent. No-one is going to take that away from You, although this is mostly the reason that people doubt. They do not want to be forced to do things.

So we must of course ask ourselves how effective we currently are in our freedom and independence. When our joy, luck and happiness exuberate, we of course should not join. Otherwise we should seriously consider. 'What have we got to loose?' We can only loose that which we want to get rid off anyway. This will happen by playing the Leela. We are involved anyway. But Tantra means aware. Tantra = (playing / supporting / upholding) the Leela. Being a follower of The Kaos-Kult of the Dark Goddess means you decide to play that Leela as well as possible and this is the commandment of the Dark Goddess . Always when She speaks, She will affirm that even 'the best' is not good enough for Her.

About miscommunication we should recall that when Neo was with the Oracle, he understood that she said a certain thing which she had actually not ! Upon this is the famous scene in the Matrix orginal where Neo saves Trinity out of the helicopter and when Neo expresses his disbelief again to Morpheus, He explains him once more: 'She only said what she needed to say!'. In fact He said: "She only said what You needed to hear!" , which comes down to the same thing.

I am not interested how "braaf" (compliant) you were but in how brave you are. Braafness means nothing to me. In the Path of Courage, 'compliance' and obedience is more a sin than a virtue. Blind compliance is actually gross stupidity. There is a lotta chaos. But Kaos is not the same as Chaos. Kaos is a much more modern and intricate version. It is higher magic leading to a higher love and a wonderful life. Those are the promises of The Kaos-Kult of the Dark Goddess . But what actually is this thing then and who is in charge?

It is a good question to wonder about the maker of the Matrix. Who is the designer of the Leela? Who designed internet? What does it mean 'to return to the Source' and what does the Creator of the Creatrix have to do with this? Why is there so much porn and rubbish on the net? Because it reflects our mind. It reflects the content of (y)/our mind! I say that there can be much more beauty in the world.

The spotlight is on you! Do You see it gleaming towards you? Who shines the light on You and how deep will you let it penetrate? Will you bounce this light away from even above and outside of the skin? Will you allow it in like a suntan? Or do you have so much trust and faith that this Light will permeate your very being?

Neo discovered that he had to intuit whose side certain people were on. They were either part of the Fellowship of the Ring or not. He had to know very sure! Nobody could tell him; not even his (ex?-)tutor, mentor, coach and master 'the legendary Morpheus' who was powerless against the Merovingian. In the RHP (right-hand path as meaning to the exclusivity of the LHP also known as Vamacara) they follow certain morals or 'guidelines', but in the LHP we have to find our own truth. We should maybe add 'and stay loyal to the Resistance'. The Resistance has to survive and conquer. That is their goal. They are willing to fight and to give their life.

Those who understand all of the above can request admittance into The Kaos-Kult of the Dark Goddess . She is the one who accepts and rejects. I have nothing to do with that. I provide some initiative as well can you. It is widely known that i am in favor of female leadership. More than Jesus, Osho or Sudip ever announced. This is very difficult and everybody knows. We can make IT possible or we can fight in any way.

Hypocracy is possible. It happens and is part of the Matrix. Some people pretend to be interested in a certaing thing or person but it is not for that thing or person. They merely use that object or experience to step up to the ladder of evolution and power. They want to be the Merovingian. And nobody can become the Merovingian that way. This we also realise. It is a voluntary collaboration in which each plays the role that they must. In this shows evolution and the powers of mastery and sorcery. In the LHP it can be rather extreme.

We are all intelligent and good people fighting for the right cause! I have no doubt about that. Do you? There are several people that i would vouch for. Wouldn't you? Don't you know at least three of these intelligent and courageous people? Why don't you actively invite them to officially enter The Kaos-Kult of the Dark Goddess and when you are absolutely sure that someone did, please congratulate them in a VERY SPECIAL WAY! But only congratulate them when you are at least on the second floor.

Let me repeat that on the 1st floor you can do whatever you want. On the second floor you seek admittance to the esoteric order also known as LHP_Tantra@yahoogroups.com and The Kaos-Kult of the Dark Goddess . It means you will do everything you can to be steady while exploring this divine madness of the Leela. A tantrik is an explorer. But not merely an explorer. He or she is an explorer with a mission (Purpose). He or she operates in a mystic energy that protects and accelerates. There are blessings and curses. The Left-Hand Path also known as Aghora is defined as 'forcible transformation' by Robert Swaboda.

All people who are studying Vamacara Tantra, i can surely recommend the web-site about Vamacara by Roderick W. Marling: http://www.kamakala.com/Default.htm. Especially for the followers of Soham Baba, i do also recommend to seriously read the entire archive of http://www.apodion.com/vad/. It is about the Path of Vama also known as Vamacara Naga Tantra or the Dark Doctrines: http://www.apodion.com/vad/.

What now is building THE RAINBOW BRIDGE? Many folks wanted to it but have not succeeded yet. Now we are all busy with our lives and imagine to be steady on our spiritual path which is our life. But are we? Reloaded is about sorcery and the play or fight between several great sorcerers. This is the year 2003 and we are still alive! What does that mean?
Right at the moment when Morpheus said that in RevolUtions,
the elevator opened and Persephone offered to bring them to the Keymaker ...

Sati is wonderful. The new hero. We all know a bit about the meaning of Sati. I have explained it on the SES-archive. How the fully dressed warriors ride out in the morning, into the arms of the enemy who will kill and slaughter every single one of them. The men who ride out will not look back even once to the village where all the women and children burn themselves in a blazing fire. This is Sati. At least it is expected that they all burn themselves. This is the code of honour. The men know that while they are riding out, in their back their wives and children are burning alive. This gives them the power to fight ferociously. To fight unto the death. The principle whereby the women burn themselves (and some of their children) is called Sati. Sati is now a forbidden practise.

The Left-Hand Path and the dark doctrines are about exploring this 'forbidden'. The code of honour of the Samurai on this Path of Courage is that they do not 'turn' each other in or 'condemn someone' because they trod this honourable path of nobility instead of being directed by fear or compliance. The Matrix is characterised by "fear" and "compliance". The hero who trods the Left-Hand Path and especially the modern and western application The Kaos-Kult of the Dark Goddess, conquers fear and compliance. That is part of the Mastery that is sought after.

The most apt students or walkers gain the blessings or certain siddhi's. There are 'powers'. This builds the profession of sorcery. The Merovingian was a highly skilled and a very powerful sorcerer. He was even more powerful than the Agents. How did he build this power? This is emitted in the movie.

These Siddhi's are certain perfections. They come with the full circulation of kundalini and sometimes by mystic initiations.

LHP is for players who are apt and professional. Those with talent, practise, courage, intelligence and bodily control. Someone without any of these of course does not get the initiations. Advancement to levels three, four or five does require strong and steady sadhana. There is no doubt about this! A tradition is a tradition of masters – going back usually several centuries. You can even consider these people as sorcerers given the current outburst of books and movies into the occult and the world of magic where every-thing is possible. This is the realm that we are exploring. This realm is guided by masters and sorcerers – even the ones of previous ages. This guidance is sometimes misguidance. Misguidance for a purpose. And this Purpose is always to grow in steadiness, wisdom, love, maturity, simplicity, completion (being total), compassion, strength and authenticity. Humour maybe as well. The ultimate guiding principle is authenticity and authenticity is also to marvel at the Wonders of life, to explore always further and to probe deeper. To design newer, higher and more intricate ways to love and to live; to weave the Magic Carpet.
I am weaving my dear friend. Do you mind that i sometimes 'worry' about you?
Written and conveyed with love.

Ralph.

Baarn, New Moon in November; 2003 years after the birth of JC.

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Dear Friends, Dear Sisters And Brothers, Dear Spiritual Soul,

Shivayoga is one of oldest technique concentration involved in all
religious teachings (and which today present) and open for each Soul.

Please note that this our group is not a criticism of any person
whatsoever, but instead a specific point intended to foster a true
spiritual understanding of the Shivayoga philosophy. Shivayoga
philosophy is one from deepest source for direct experience of God.
This Divine perspective is full practically, historically,
scientifically, poetically, philosophically, spiritualitally,
mistically and devotionally part of unity with God.

May God Bless your Soul with best understooding Shivayoga philosophy

Lord Branko in exhile

Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Re: Craving post from Mark Haresh Daswani

2008-08-22T09:51:00.000-07:00

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From: adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:39 AM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Re: Craving post from Mark Haresh Daswani
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

Story of Alexander the Great

Alexander the Great is known as the most powerful military leader and conqueror of the ancient world. Before he turned 30 years old he conquered an empire stretching over 3,000 miles from Greece to India. He was born in 356 BC in Macedonia, known today as northern Greece.

On his sickbed and during his last hour alive, Alexander the Great told his generals "After my death, when you put my body in the casket, let my arms hang over the edges with my palms wide open, so the public can see my empty hands while I am leaving the world." After he died, many dignitaries came to view the royal funeral and were very surprised to see his arms hanging over the edge of the casket with his palms wide open. They asked questions about this unique scene. A wise man told them "O' People, Alexander the Great is telling us that when he ruled the world, great treasures of gold, silver and wealth came to be under his possession. Yet, indeed he is leaving the world empty handed."

Source: Partially extracted from the writtings of JC Pinkerton.

We come naked in this world and go naked !

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Re: Craving post from Mark Haresh Daswani

2008-08-21T07:10:00.003-07:00

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From: adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Re: Craving post from Mark Haresh Daswani
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

now you know why i crave for different types of men ! the more enlightened they are , the more they turn me on! so , haresh , my buddy , you are mr. Enlightened in my eyes!

great thinking!

was it not alexander the great who said :

Atomb is not now enough for a man who wanted to conquer all the world !

Yes! do we want a lion to lead a herd of sheep or a sheep to lead a group of lions ? says al-shehazaadi -

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Craving post from Mark Haresh Daswani

2008-08-21T07:10:00.001-07:00

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From: Om Ganesha <krshna78@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Craving post from Mark Haresh Daswani
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

crave (krv)
v. craved, crav·ing, craves
v.tr.
1. To have an intense desire for. See Synonyms at desire.
2. To need urgently; require.
3. To beg earnestly for; implore. See Synonyms at beg.
v.intr.
To have an eager or intense desire.

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two cups of tea later and it is still there, the desire of Mark to
conquer something.

He has set out a map of all the islands he can travel to and capture.
He has prepared a flag with an interesting array of color. The colors
chosen had to be different from existing flags. Thus, he chose
burgundy and purple. It was a strange looking flag, but it was
important to have one.

By analyzing the map, Mark has found an interesting island in the
vicinity of the African continent. he merely has to conquer the
locals, stick the flag on the ground, and challenge the malnourished
and starving citizenry of the coutnry's capital to go after him for a
fight. He intends to provide rice and food to his own constituents,
while inviting new factories seeking for a place to open their sweat
shop. Everything was well worked out and Mark has a group of 45 people
with him for the project.

He even has a backing of a proper venture capitalist. His company,
Conquest, is intending to go IPO, and has people waiting for it.

It was interesting, the entire country is an enterprise and the ruling
leader is also the country's CEO. Aside from taxes enough for security
and infrastructure, he intends to charge management and leadership
fee. This was to become a capitalist country.

Off went Mark and his 45 other partners, they took a plane and
acquired a boat. Everything is going according to plan.

Mark has now arrived and conquered the tiny island in the African
continent and has set up his new system. Strange enough, it was well
praised. Mark now has the ability to transform ill managed countries
into well oiled economic states. Education was outsourced and
enrollment fee was paid by the government through asking the entire
population to try investing on the future. It worked out fine.

Now, Mark looks at the map again, and finds neighboring countries that
he could easily conquer. 2 years after his first conquest, he took
over 2 more islands and replicated his system. It has become a
franchise, and now, Mark has put his country on IPO and generated a
good amount of funds.

And yet, Mark is craving for something. Apparently, this was not the
conquest he was craving for.

Quite like people who are depressed reaching out for ice cream
thinking it is what they are looking for, it is not curing anything.

Mark's craving is not going away.

He has now tried womanizing as well, and yet it is not working out for
him.

He decides to step back and review the whole situation.

He now realizes that the core problem was that while he wanted to
conquer others, that was not his true craving, he was craving for
spiritual insights, and is addicted to them.

And pickled cabbages.

So Mark now embarks on his spiritual quest, and bought a large jar of
pickled cabbages. He now learns that what he failed to conquer was
himself, and that the universe within us is a lot larger than what is
outside.

Internally, we can be infinite, and it goes beyond the whole idea of
physics, but it is the factual matter. We are all infinite looking
outward in a finite world. The greater challenge is the conquest
within, and to those who have realized, such passion can be seen in
their eyes. There is a different drug, a different high in pursuit of
this conquest.

But of course, he will not give up his enterprise. After all, owning
countries was also in his priority list since the age of 5.

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Fwd: [19 Isaiah] Why Imam al-Mahdi may have no mercy for his enemies

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AHL AL-BAYT
THE CELESTIAL BEINGS ON THE EARTH

Author: Allama Hussein Ansariyan

Translator: Dr. Ali Akbar Aghili Ashtiani

http://www.maaref-foundation.com

Morality and character
of Imam al-Mahdi

The Imams of Ahl al-Bayt (a.s), due to restrictions imposed on them from every side, had no chance to fully reveal their capacities. The Imam of the Time, may Allah expedite his reappearance, will have a chance to reveal his multi-dimensional capacity as foreseen by the Holy Prophet and the Imam's of Ahl al-Bayt. Therefore, his behavior, conduct and temperament have a dimension wider than those of the other Imams. In most narrations, we read that the time of Imam al-Mahdi will be replete with bloodshed and killing. In certain narrations, it has even been pointed out that Allah will remove love for the enemies from the heart of Imam al-Mahdi so much so that people will say,

…لَيْسَ هَذَا مِنْ آلِ مُحَمَّدٍ، لَوْ كَانَ مِنْ آلِ مُحَمَّدٍ لَرَحِمَ!

"This is not from the Household of Muhammad. Were he from the Household of Muhammad, he would have some mercy."[1]

However, one must note that when Imam al-Mahdi reappears, the world will be at the enemies' hand and they strongly resist against him. In this connection, Imam al-Sadiq has said:

إنَّ قَائِمَنَا إذَا قَامَ اسْتَقْبَلَ مِنْ جَهَلَةِ النَّاسِ أشَدَّ مِمَّا اسْتَقْبَلَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ (ص) مِنْ جُهَّالِ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ.

When our Imam rises up, he will find people more ignorant than that of the time before Allah's Messenger.

In this case, Imam al-Mahdi has no option other than resorting to war and a revolutionary decisiveness. When the resistance of the sworn enemy is broken, justice, welfare, peace and security will prevail everywhere. What follows are narrations showing the morality and corrective character of Imam al-Mahdi in relation to the world and man at large:

Resemblance To The Holy Prophet

Looking at Husayn, Imam `Ali said:

إنَّ ابْنِي هَذَا سَيِّدٌ كَمَا سَمَّاهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ (ص) سَيِّداً. وَسَيُخْرِجُ اللهُ مِنْ صُلْبِهِ رَجُلاً بِاسْمِ نَبِيِّكُمْ، يُشْبِهُهُ فِي الْخَلْقِ وَالْخُلُقِ.

[1] Bihar al-Anwar: 354/52, H 13.

This son of mine is a master as the Holy Prophet called him a master and from his issue will come a man who has the same name of the Messenger of Allah and resembling to him in creation and character.[1]

`Abdullah ibn `Ata reports: I asked Imam al-Sadiq about the character of Imam al-Mahdi, the Imam said:

يَصْنَعُ مَا صَنَعَ رَسُولُ اللهِ (ص).

He will do what the Holy Prophet did.[2]

Quoting Allah's Messenger, Ibn `Abbas has reported:

التَّاسِعُ مِنْهُمْ، قَائِمُ أهْلِ بَيْتِي وَمَهْدِيُّ أمَّتِي، أشْبَهُ النَّاسِ بِي فِي شَمَائِلِهِ وَأقْوَالِهِ وَأفْعَالِهِ.

The ninth of them, the support of my Household and al-Mahdi of my ummah is the most similar to me in appearance, speech and deed.[3]

Abu-Muhammad Hasan ibn `Ali `Askari (a.s) was quoted by Ahmad ibn Ishaq ibn Sa`d as saying:

ألْحَمْدُ للهِ الَّذِي لَمْ يُخْرِجْنِي مِنَ الدُّنْيَا حَتَّى أرَانِيَ الْخَلَفَ مِنْ بَعْدِي، أشْبَهَ النَّاسِ بِرَسُولِ اللهِ (ص) خَلْقاً وَخُلُقاً.

I praise Allah that before I die He has shown me my successor who is the most similar to Allah's Messenger in appearance, speech and deed.[4]

Quoting Qatadah, Ka`b al-Ahbar has reported:

ألْمَهْدِيُّ خَيْرُ النَّاسِ... مَحْبُوبُ الْخَلأئِقِ.

Al-Mahdi is the best of the people… the most beloved of people.[5]

Dispensing Justice

`Ali ibn Musa al-Ri¤a (a.s) was asked, "O son of Allah's Messenger! Who is the support of you Ahl al-Bayt?" The Imam said:

[1] Bihar al-Anwar: 39/51, H 20.

[2] Bihar al-Anwar: 352/52, H 108.

[3] Bihar al-Anwar: 379/52, H 187.

[4] Kamal al-Din: 118/2.

[5] `Aqd al-Durar fi Akhbar al-Muntazar: 152.

الرَّابِعُ مِنْ وُلْدِي… يُطَهِّرُ اللهُ بِهِ الأرْضَ مِنْ كُلِّ جَوْرٍ… فَإذَا خَرَجَ أشْرَقَتِ الأرْضُ بِنُورِهِ، وَوُضِعَ مِيزَانُ الْعَدْلِ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ فَلأ يَظْلِمُ أحَدٌ أحَداً.

The fourth of my sons is. Allah will remove injustice from the earth through him. When he reappears, the earth will be illuminated with his heavenly light. He will dispense justice among people so much so that no one will do any injustice to others.[1]

Quoting his father, `Ali ibn `Aqabah has reported:

إذَا قَامَ الْقَائِمُ، حَكَمَ بِالْعَدْلِ وَارْتَفَعَ فِي أيَّامِهِ الْجَوْرُ... وَرَدَّ كُلَّ حَقٍّ إلَى أهْلِهِ.

When Al-Mahdi rises up, he will rule with justice; there will be no injustice in his time and he will restore justice to its owner.[2]

Quoting Allah's Messenger, Imam `Ali has expressly said:

آخِرُهُمْ إسْمُهُ عَلَى اسْمِي. يَخْرُجُ فَيَمْلأُ الأرْضَ عَدْلاً كَمَا مُلِئَتْ جَوْراً وَظُلْماً.

The last of them (i.e. the Imams) has my names. He will reappear and fill the earth with justice when it is replete with injustice.[3]

Quoting Allah's Messenger, Imam `Ali has reported:

…وَمُنَادٍ يُنَادِي: هَذَا الْمَهْدِيُّ خَلِيفَةُ اللهِ فَاتَّبِعُوهُ. يَمْلأُ الأرْضَ قِسْطاً وَعَدْلاً كَمَا مُلِئَتْ جَوْراً وَظُلْماً. وَذَلِكَ عِنْدَمَا يَصِيرُ الدُّنْيَا هَرَجاً وَمَرَجاً، وَيَغَارُ بَعْضُهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ؛ فَلأ الْكَبِيرُ يَرْحَمُ الصَّغِيرَ وَلأ الْقَوِيُّ يَرْحَمُ الضَّعِيفَ، فَحِينَئِذٍ يَأذَنُ اللهُ لَهُ بِالْخُرُوجِ.

The herald will call: This is al-Mahdi, Allah's caliph. Follow him. He will make the earth replete with justice when it is filled with injustice. When chaos overwhelms the world and some attack others by night, when the grown-up have no mercy on the small ones, nor the powerful are kind to the weak, Allah will permit him to reappear.[4]

[1] Kamal al-Din: 371/2, Chapter: 35, H 5

[2] Al-Irshad by al-Mufid: 384/2.

[3] Bihar al-Anwar: 379/52, Chapter: 27, H 186.

[4] Bihar al-Anwar: 380/52, H 182.

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has reported:

أوَّلُ مَا يُظْهِرُ الْقَائِمُ مِنَ الْعَدْلِ أنْ يُنَادِي مُنَادِيَهُ أنْ يُسَلِّمَ صَاحِبُ النَّافِلَةِ لِصَاحِبِ الْفَرِيضَةِ الْحَجَرَ الأسْوَدَ وَالطَّوَافَّ.

The first sign of al-Mahdi's justice is that a herald on his behalf will call: One who is performing minor Hajj should give his place to one on whom major Hajj is incumbent.[1]

There are a hundred and twenty narrations on how al-Mahdi will make the earth replete with justice.

Peace and Security

Imam `Ali (a.s) has reported:

وَلَوْ قَدْ قَامَ قَائِمُنَا... لَذَهَبَتِ الشَّحْنَاءُ مِنْ قُلُوبِ الْعِبَادِ.

When our support rises up, enmity will leave the people's hearts.[2]

Imam al-Baqir (a.s) has reported:

فَيَبْعَثُ الثَّلاثَمِائَةٍ وَالبِضْعَةَ رَجُلاً إلَى الآفَاقِ كُلِّهَا... حَتَّى تَخْرُجَ الْعَجُوزُ الضَّعِيفَةُ مِنْ الْمَشْرِقِ تُرِيدُ الْمَغْرِبَ فَلا يَنْهَاهَا أحَدٌ.

When three hundred and odd companions of the Imam rule across the world, a feeble old woman in the east will set off for the west in peace and security.[3]

Quoting his father, `Ali ibn `Aqabah has reported:

إذَا قَامَ القَائِمُ... أُمِّنَتْ بِهِ السُّبُلُ.

Should the Rising Imam rise up, all roads will become safe.[4]

Public Welfare

Imam al-Baqir (a.s) has reported:

مَنْ أدْرَكَ قَائِمَ أهْلِ بَيْتِي مِنْ ذِي عَاهَةٍ بَرَأ وَمِنْ ذِي ضَعْفٍ قَوِيَ.

Should those who have been hurt see the support of the Ahl al-Bayt, they will be relieved; and the feeble ones who see him will become powerful.[5]

[1] Al-Kafi: 427/4, H 1.

[2] Al-Khisal: 626/2, H 10.

[3] Bihar al-Anwar: 341/5, H 91.

[4] Al-Irshad by al-Mufid: 384/2.

[5] Bihar al-Anwar: 335/52, H 68.

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has reported:

إنْ قَامَ قَائِمُنَا... يَطْلُبُ الرَّجُلُ مِنْكُمْ مَنْ يَصِلُهُ بِمَالِهِ وَيَأخُذُ مِنْ زَكَاتِهِ فَلأ يُوجَدُ أحَدٌ يَقْبَلُ مِنْهُ ذَلِكَ. إسْتَغْنَى النَّاسُ بِمَا رَزَقَهُمُ اللهُ مِنْ فَضْلِهِ.

Should our support (al-Mahdi) rise up, a man from among you will look for a needy person to help him and to take alms from what is incumbent to him; but he will not be able to find such a person to accept it from him; and people will become independent due to what Allah has given them out of His grace.[1]

Quoting the Holy Prophet Imam `Ali has reported:

يَأتِيهِ الرَّجُلُ وَالْمَالُ كُدْسٌ فَيَقُولُ: يَا مَهْدِيُّ أعْطِنِي. فَيَقُولُ: خُذْ.

Everyone goes to him with wealth accumulated beside him. He will ask al-Mahdi, "Grant something to me." And he will say, "Take whatever you wish."[2]

Imam al-Baqir (a.s) has reported:

إذَا ظَهَرَ الْقَائِمُ... يُعْطِي النَّاسَ عَطَايَا مَرَّتَيْنِ فِي السَّنَةِ وَيَرْزُقُهُمْ فِي الشَّهْرِ رِزْقَيْنِ وَيُسَوِّي بَيْنَ النَّاسِ حَتَّى لأ تَرَى مُحْتَاجاً إلَى الزَّكَاةِ. وَيَجِيءُ أصْحَابُ الزَّكَاةِ بِزَكَاتِهِمْ إلَى الْمَحَاوِيجِ مِنْ شِيعَتِهِ فَلأ يَقْبَلُونَهَا. فَيُصِرُّونَهَا وَيَدُورُونَ فِي دُورِهِمْ فَيَخْرُجُونَ إلَيْهِمْ فَيَقُولُونَ: لأ حَاجَةَ لَنَا فِي دَرَاهِمِكُمْ!

When the Rising Imam reappears, he will give away to people twice a year and he will provide people with sustenance twice a month equally so that you cannot find anyone in need of alms. Alms-payer will come to the needy followers of al-Mahdi but the needy will not accept their alms. Alms-money is put in a purse to be taken to the houses of the Shi`ites. They come out of their houses, addressing them: We are not in need of your money!

Imam al-Baqir (a.s) has further reported:

وَيَجْتَمِعُ إلَيْهِ أمْوَالُ أهْلِ الدُّنْيَا كُلِّهَا مِنْ بَطْنِ الأرْضِ وَظَهْرِهَا، فَيُقَالُ لِلنَّاسِ: تَعَالَوا إلَى مَا قَطَعْتُمْ فِيهِ الأرْحَامَ وَسَفَكْتُمْ فِيهِ الدَّمَ الْحَرَامَ وَرَكَبْتُمْ فِيهِ الْمَحَارِمَ. فَيُعْطِي عَطَاءً لَمْ يُعْطِهِ أحَدٌ قَبْلَهُ.

[1] Al-Irshad by al-Mufid: 386/2.

[2] Bihar al-Anwar: 379/52, H 186.

All the people's wealth, both inside and outside the earth will be accumulated for al-Mahdi and then they will be said: Come to what for which you became merciless and shed the blood unlawfully and for which committed sins. Here, Imam al-Mahdi will award to people such a grant that no one has ever awarded.

The Holy Prophet has said:

يَكُونُ فِي آخِرِ الزَّمَانِ خَلِيفَةٌ يُعْطِي الْمَالَ وَلا يَعِدُّهُ عَدّاً.

At the end of the world, there will be a caliph who will divide the wealth without counting them.[1]

Allah's Messenger (s) has also said:

وَيَمْلأُ اللهُ قُلُوبَ ُأمَّةِ مُحَمَّدٍ غِنَىً.

At the time of al-Mahdi, Allah will make the hearts of the community of Muhammad free from want.[2]

Removing Harms From Shi`ites

Imam `Ali ibn Musa al-Ri¤a (a.s) has said:

(ألْمَهْدِيُّ) يَكُونُ رَحْمَةً لِلمُؤْمِنِينَ وَعَذَاباً عَلَى الْكَافِرِينَ.

Al-Mahdi is a source of mercy for believers and punishment for the unbelievers.[3]

Imam `Ali ibn Husayn Zayn al-`Abidin (a.s) has said:

إذَا قَامَ قَائِمُنَا أذْهَبَ اللهُ عَنْ شِيعَتِنَا الْعَاهَةَ.

When the Rising Imam rises up, Allah will remove all harms from the Shi`ites.[4]

Imam al-Baqir (a.s) has said:

(نْ قَامَ قَائِمُنَا) يُوسِعُ اللهُ عَلَى شِيعَتِنَا، وَلَوْ لأ مَا يُدْرِكُهُمْ مِنَ السَّعَادَةِ لَبَغَوْا.

At the time of al-Mahdi, Allah will improve the situation of the Shi`ites, for if they are not happy, they will rebel.[5]

[1] `Aqd al-Durar fi Akhbar al-Muntazar: 161.

[2] Ibid.

[3] Kamal al-Din: 376/2, H 7.

[4] Bihar al-Anwar: 317/52, Chapter: 22, H 12.

[5] Bihar al-Anwar: 341/52, Chapter: 27, H 91.

Imam `Ali ibn al-Husayn (a.s) has said:

إذَا قَامَ الْقَائِمُ أذْهَبَ اللهُ عَنْ كُلِّ مُؤْمِنٍ العَاهَةَ وَرَدَّ إلَيْهِ قُوَّتَهُ.

When our support rises up, he will remove harms from believers and restore them their power.[1]

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has said:

إذَا قَامَ الْقَائِمُ جَاءَتِ الْمُزَامَلَةُ؛ وَيَأتِي الرَّجُلُ إلَى كِيسِ أخِيهِ فَيَأخُذُ حَاجَتَهُ لأ يَمْنَعُهُ.

When our support rises up, the era of concord will come about and every person takes what he needs from the purse of his brother without being prevented.[2]

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has also said:

لَمَّا ُأسْرِيَ بِي أوْحَى إلَيَّ رَبِّي… وَبِهِ (الْمَهْدِيّ) أنْتَقِمُ مِنْ أعْدَائِي. وَهُوَ رَاحَةٌ لأِوْلِيَائِي، وَهُوَ الَّذِي يَشْفِي قُلُوبَ شِيعَتِكَ مِنَ الظَّالِمِينَ وَالْجَاحِدِينَ وَالكَافِرِينَ.

During the Holy Prophet's Night Ascension, Allah said to him about al-Mahdi: I will take revenge from enemies through him. He is the source of tranquility for My friends and it is he who will calm the Shi`ites feeling of revenge from oppressors and unbelievers.[3]

Promoting Intellect, knowledge and Morality

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has said:

إذَا قَامَ قَائِمُنَا وَضَعَ يَدَهُ عَلَى رُؤوسِ الْعِبَادِ، فَجَمَعَ بِهِ عُقُولَهُمْ، وَأكْمَلَ بِهِ أخْلأقَهُمْ.

When our support rises up, he puts his hand on the heads of the servants whereby he promotes their wisdom and morality.[4]

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has said:

إنَّ قَائِمَنَا إذَا قَامَ مَدَّ اللهُ لِشِيعَتِنَا فِي أسْمَاعِهِمْ وَأبْصَارِهِمْ حَتَّى لأ يَكُونَ بَيْنَهُمْ وَبَيْنَ الْقَائِمِ بَرِيدٌ؛ يُكَلِّمُهُمْ فَيَسْمَعُونَ وَيَنْظُرُونَ إلَيْهِ.

When our support rises up, Allah will strengthen the Shi`ites' vision and hearing where by there is no need for a link between them and the standing Imam. He will speak to them while they listen and look at him.[5]

[1] Bihar al-Anwar: 364/52, Chapter: 27, H 138.

[2] Al-Ikhtisas: 26.

[3] Kamal al-Din: 251/1, H 2.

[4] Bihar al-Anwar: 336/52, chapter: 27, H 71.

[5] Bihar al-Anwar: 336/52, Chapter: 27, H 72.

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has also said:

ألْعِلْمُ سَبْعَةٌ وَعِشْرُونَ حَرْفاً. فَجَمِيعُ مَا جَاءَتْ بِهِ الرُّسُلُ حَرْفَانِ. فَلَمْ يَعْرِفِ النَّاسُ حَتَّى الْيَوْمَ غَيْرَ الْحَرْفَيْنِ. فَإذَا قَامَ قَائِمُنَا أخْرَجَ الْخَمْسَةَ وَالْعِشْرِينَ حَرْفاً فَبَثَّهَا فِي النَّاسِ وَضَمَّ إلَيْهَا الْحَرْفَيْنِ حَتَّى يَبُثَّهَا سَبْعَةً وَعِشْرِينَ حَرْفاً.

Knowledge has twenty-seven parts. What the prophets have brought are two parts and people do not know more than these two parts to date. When our support rises up, he will bring with him the other twenty-five parts and spread them among people so that they will become twenty-seven parts all together.[1]

Final Rule

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has said:

إنَّ دَوْلَتَنَا آخِرُ الدُّوَلِ. وَلَمْ يَبْقَ أهْلُ بَيْتٍ لَهُمْ دَوْلَةٌ إلأ مَلَكُوا قَبْلَنَا، لِئَلأ يَقُولُوا إذَا رَأوْا سِيرَتَنَا: إذَا مَلَكْنَا سِرْنَا بِمِثْلِ سِيرَةِ هَؤُلأءِ! وَهُوَ قَوْلُ اللهِ تَعَالَى:وَالْعَاقِبَةُ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ (83)

Our rule is the last one. No dynasty will come after our rule lest they will say if the rule were ours we would act like them. This is the meaning of Allah's saying:(28:83)

The good end is for those who guard against evil.[2]

How to Salute Imam al-Mahdi?

Imam al-Sadiq (a.s) has said:

Should you survive as to see him, when you look at him, say:

السَّلأمُ عَلَيْكُمْ أهْلَ بَيْتِ الرَّحْمَةِ وَالنُّبُوَّةِ وَمَعْدِنَ الْعِلْمِ وَمَوْضِعَ الرِّسَالَةِ. السَّلأمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا بَقِيَّةَ اللهِ فِي أرْضِهِ.

Peace be upon you, O people of the House of the Prophet and of Mercy, source of knowledge, and seat of Divine Mission. Peace be upon you, O Allah's Remainder on the earth.

[1] Bihar al-Anwar: 336/52, Chapter: 27, H 73.

[2] Al-Irshad by al-Mufid: 384/2.

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Re: i would rather be a Shava than a shia /shiva

2008-08-19T10:17:00.001-07:00

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From: adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Re: i would rather be a Shava than a shia /shiva
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

here is that one track song

listen and enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy3PqqPWeY4 - 110k - Cached

The song simply means

Ali Ali Im Shia and my Imam is Ali ... meaning u must be shia
There is no hero but Ali, and no sword except Zulfiqar

Guys , i am neither a supoorter of Shia nor Shiva ! i am just
a 'spectator' and an 'actor' in this Maaya of samsaric life! i am not
a Shia nor a shiva only a 'shava' - corpse!

anyway , here is what a Shia means -

Shias are the Muslims of the branch of Islam comprising sects
believing in *Ali* and the Imams as the only rightful successors of
Muhammad and in the concealment and the messianic return of the last
recognized Imam.

also Shia means a follower !

BOTH SHIAS AND SUNNIS BELIEVE IN THE FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM . They
are the testimony of faith, prayer, giving zakat (support of the
needy), fasting during the month of Ramadan, and the pilgrimage to
Makkah once in a lifetime for those who are able.

BUT SHIAS BELIEVE THE IMAM from the fsamily of Mohammed is the True
follower and everyone should follow the imam !

but Shia believe in 'jihad' ( not internal but external) and that is
the most frightening aspect as far as i am concerned! i just cannot
deal with external jehadis - they are a threat to themselves and
others! so i would rather be a corpse (shava) than a shia!

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16@...>
wrote:
>
>
> ONE TRACK !
>
> AL MAHDI!
>
>
>
>
> --- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Lowen Vaz" <lowenv@> wrote:
> >
> > which track dear
> > one two or three
> > love
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:25 AM, adi_shakthi16 adi_

Re: [ShivaYoga] A LETTER FROM GOD!

2008-08-18T17:12:00.001-07:00

thabk you dear god
adi
love

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:39 AM, adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16@yahoo.com> wrote:

The following was read on the air by radio commentator, Paul Harvey. (The original author is Bo Lozoff.)

An Open Letter from God

My dear children, and believe Me, that is all of you, I consider Myself a pretty patient guy. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution? Boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place cell by cell and gene by gene

And I have been patient through your fashions, your civilizations, wars and schemes, and the countless ways that you take Me for granted until you get yourselves into big trouble again and again.

I want to let you know about some of the things that started ticking Me off. First of all, your religious rivalries are driving Me up a wall. Enough already! Let's get one thing straight. These are your religions, not Mine. I'm the whole enchilada. I'm beyond `em all.

Every one of your religions claims that there's only one of Me, which, by the way, is absolutely true, but in the very next breath each religion claims that it's My favorite one. And each claims its bible was written personally by Me, and that all of the other bibles are man-made. Oh, Me. How do I ever begin to put a stop to such complicated nonsense?

All right, listen up now. I am your Father and Mother, and I don't play favorites among My children.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a doer anyway. So ALL of your books, including those bibles, were written by men and women. They were inspired men and women, they were remarkable people, but they also made mistakes here and there. And I made sure of that, so that you would never trust a written word rather than your own living heart.

You see, one human being to Me — even a bum on the street — is worth more than all of the holy books in the world. That's just the kind of a guy I am. My spirit is not an historical thing. It's alive right now, right now, as fresh as your next breath. Holy books and religious rites are sacred and powerful, but they are not more so than the least of you. They were only meant to steer you in the right direction, not to keep you arguing with each other, and certainly not to keep you from trusting your own personal connection with Me.

Which brings Me to My next point about your nonsense. You act like I need you and your religions to stick up for Me or win souls for My sake. Please, don't do Me any favors. I can stand quite well on My own, thank you. I don't need you to defend Me, I don't need constant credit. I just want you to be good to each other.

And another thing. I don't get all worked up over money or politics, so stop dragging My name into your dramas. For example, I swear to Me that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rajneesh's Rolls Royces and I never told Pat Robertson to run for president, and I have never had a conversation with Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell or Jimmy Swaggart. Of course, come Judgement Day, I certainly intend to.

Now the thing is, I want you to stop thinking of religion as some sort of a loyalty pledge to Me. The true purpose of religion is so that YOU can become more aware of ME, not the other way around. Believe Me, I know you already. I know what's in each of your hearts, and I love you anyway with no strings attached. So, lighten up and enjoy Me. That's what religion's best for.

What you seem to forget is how mysterious I am. You look at the petty differences in your scriptures and you say, "Well, if this is the truth, then that can't be." But instead of trying to figure out My paradoxes and unfathomable nature — which, by the way, you never will — why not open your hearts to the simple, common threads of every religion? You know what I'm talking about. Play nice with each other. Love and respect everyone. Be kind. Even when life is scary or confusing, take courage and be of good cheer, for I'm always with you.

And learn how to be quiet, so that you can hear My still, small voice. I don't like to shout. Leave the world a better place by living your life with dignity and gracefulness, for you are My own child. Hold back nothing from life, for the parts of you that can die surely will, and the parts that can't, won't. So don't worry, be happy. (I stole that last line from Bobby McFerrin, but Who gave it to him in the first place?)

Simple stuff now. Why do you keep making it so complicated? It's like you're always looking for an excuse to be upset. And I am very tired of being your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call Me God, or Yahweh, or Jehovah, Allah, Wakatonka, Brahma, Father, Mother, even the Void of Nirvana? Do you think I care which of My Special Children you feel closest to — Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad or any of the others? You can call Me and My Special Ones any names you choose, if only you will go about My business of loving one another as I love you. How can you keep neglecting something so simple?

No, I am not telling you to abandon your religions. Enjoy your religions, honor them, learn from them, just as you should enjoy, honor, and learn from your parents. But do you walk around telling everyone that your parents are better than theirs? Your religion, like your parents, may always have the most special place in your heart. I don't mind that at all. And I don't want you to combine all of the great traditions into One Big Mess. Each religion is unique for a reason. Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves. But My Special Children — the ones that your religions revolve around — all live in the same place in My heart, and they get along perfectly, I assure you.

The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none. My blessed children of Earth, the world has grown too small for your pervasive religious bigotries and confusion. The whole planet is now connected by air travel, satellite dishes, telephones, fax machines, rock concerts, diseases and mutual needs and concerns. Get with the program! If you really want to help me celebrate the birthday of My Son Jesus, then commit yourselves to figuring out how to feed your hungry and clothe your naked, and protect your abused and shelter your poor. And just as important, make your own everyday life a shining example of kindness and good humor. I've given you all the resources you need, if only you abandon your fear of each other and begin living, and loving and laughing together.

Finally, My children everywhere, remember whose birthday you honor on what you call Christmas Day, December 25th, and the fearlessness with which He chose to live and die. As I love Him, so do I love each of you.

Now, I am not really ticked off. Not really. I just wanted to grab your attention because I hate to see you suffer. But I gave you free will, so what can I do now other than try to influence you through reason, persuasion, and a little old-fashioned guilt and manipulation? After all, you know I am the original Jewish Mother. I just want you to be happy, and I'll sit in the dark. I really am, indeed I swear, with you always. Always. Trust in Me.

Your One and Only,...

God

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Re: Your Love for Lisa is beyond compare ......

2008-08-18T16:18:00.000-07:00

freeeeeeeeeeeeze
--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16@...>
wrote:
>
> Sonnet 130 (shakespeare) My mistress' eyes are nothing like the
sun;
> Coral is far more red than her lips' red;
> If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
> If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.
> I have seen roses damask'd, red and white,
> But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
> And in some perfumes is there more delight
> Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.
> I love to hear her speak, yet well I know
> That music hath a far more pleasing sound;
> I grant I never saw a goddess go;
> My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground:
> And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare
> As any she belied with false compare.
>

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Eye of the Sun and Beauty ........Dante's beatrice and ibn arabi's nizam !

2008-08-18T16:17:00.000-07:00

'Now this Sheikh had a daughter, a lithesome young girl who captivated
the gaze of all those who knew her, whose mere presence was the
ornament of our gatherings, and startled all those who contemplated it
to the point of stupefaction. Her name was Nizam, and her surname "Eye
of the Sun and of Beauty." Learned and pious, with an experience of
spiritual and mystic life, she personified the venerable antiquity of
the entire Holy Land. The magic of her glance, the grace of
her conversation were such an enchantment that when, on occasion, she
was prolix, her words flowed from the source; when she spoke concisely,
she was a marvel of eloquence; when she expounded an argument she was
clear and transparent... .If not for the paltry souls who are ready for
scandal and predisposed towards malice, I should commend her on the
beauties of her body as well as her soul, which was a garden of
generosity.' " [Quoted by Cowan from the Divan "The Interpreter of
Ardent Desires" from 'A Collection of Mystical Odes by Ibn Arabi,'
translated by R. A. Nicholson.]

so ! beauty is in the eyes of the beholder!

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Lisa Lalleshwari has No eyes t o behold the Beeuty of My love

2008-08-18T16:14:00.000-07:00

Hey Vsalli Vinatha..

This Lisa the sleeping beuty.. has no eyes of love..

I did observe our messages merged at 10 15 ( UK time)..

and LIsa is Sleeping..

He does not appreciate my love at all

So i shall go after

Valli and Vinatha

and Dani and Daniella

Eye of the Sun and Beauty ........Dante's beatrice and ibn arabi's
nizam !

'Now this Sheikh had a daughter, a lithesome young girl who captivated
the gaze of all those who knew her, whose mere presence was the
ornament of our gatherings, and startled all those who contemplated it
to the point of stupefaction. Her name was Nizam, and her surname "Eye
of the Sun and of Beauty." Learned and pious, with an experience of
spiritual and mystic life, she personified the venerable antiquity of
the entire Holy Land. The magic of her glance, the grace of
her conversation were such an enchantment that when, on occasion, she
was prolix, her words flowed from the source; when she spoke
concisely,
she was a marvel of eloquence; when she expounded an argument she was
clear and transparent... .If not for the paltry souls who are ready
for
scandal and predisposed towards malice, I should commend her on the
beauties of her body as well as her soul, which was a garden of
generosity.' " [Quoted by Cowan from the Divan "The Interpreter of
Ardent Desires" from 'A Collection of Mystical Odes by Ibn Arabi,'
translated by R. A. Nicholson.]

so ! beauty is in the eyes of the beholder!

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Re: The divine feminine in islam!

2008-08-18T16:13:00.000-07:00

I LIKE THE USER ID " PEN KATALI"

a girl who dances.. in katak

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16@...>
wrote:
>
> From: PenKatali
> Date: Sat Nov 24, 2001 7:05 pm
> Subject: Re: Is my mother kali black?
>
> 'Just as all colors disappear in black,so all names and forms
> disappear in her'(Mahanirvana Tantra).
>
> The name of Kali, meaning 'black', is of Dravidian origin, borrowed
> into Sanskrit.
>
> Black in Tamil is karu. At a very early period, proto-Sanskrit
> shifted the sound of r to l and vice versa. So the name of Kali must
> be very ancient.
>
> The metaphysical significance of Her blackness, as you explained
> so well, Adi Shakti, is interesting because Sufis use the very same
> description for the Divine Feminine.
>
> Their mystical love poems invoke Allah as "Layla" from the word
> for 'night' (layl), meaning a Woman whose hair is black as night.
The
> explanation my shaykh gave me of Her blackness is the same as Kali
> Ma's blackness: Night represents the Unmanifest.
>
> In the Arabian desert, the night is a reality without boundaries:
> forms are dissolved, no sand dunes or camels or anything else
> visible, all is formless, nothing but darkness. This is direct
> symbolism of the unmanifested aspect of the Divine Nature, Allah as
> Unmanifest.
>
> Blackness absorbs all light, as it is above manifestation, so it
> symbolizes the Beyond-Being. In the poem, Layla was named for the
> blackness of her hair and the beauty of the night. By extension, it
> in fact refers to the beauty of the Divine Reality beyond this
world,
> beyond the act of creation, and therefore the supreme
> goal that the Sufi seeks to reach."<
>
> Allah as the Beloved in Sufi literature, the ma`shûq, is always
> depicted with female iconography. This is one reason I find that
> Sufism is congruent with Devi worship, and why I as a Muslim am so
> irresistibly drawn to Her devotion.
>
> The Islamic attestation of faith is called "Kali-Ma." :-) well, my
> friend PK was a white jew who became a muslim ! he was john! but in
> recent years he decided to throw his male privilege away and became
a
> woman named johanna! first comes conversion then comes
transformation!
> so , when you are a true muslim, you do become a woman because
> Compassion is another name for woman!
>
>
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sadhana_shakti/message/955?
o=0&var=1&l=1>
>

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Guten morgeee.. hee heeee me tattoee shieevjee my nipleee

2008-08-18T16:12:00.000-07:00

geez~~ cutie loviee loveen.. thnx 4r invitee.. sylvee is appy..

me tattoeed sheevjee me right nipplee jee..he heee

me goodie or baddiee? ! !

sophiee tatooed left nipple loviee maharaj jee..
sophee goodeee or badee..

oooopss.. me gotttie sweet beely tatoee... loveen maharaj jeee..

me sophiee,, kissiess nipplees lovee jee...

mee goodie or baddieee

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Re: Why Shakesphere says that I Should love Lisa Dewit?

2008-08-18T16:11:00.000-07:00

I thought Watson was with Sherlock HOlmes..

Baker Street..

This Lisa.. is Silent and I am worried..

But why should I be?
Lisa does not care about me.. at all..

so Why should I?
let me Look at Your Mookkuthi..

You look So cute ..when you were a Virgin..

who is that Stupid Fellow who married you?

I envy HIM

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16@...>
wrote:
>
> my dear watson !
>
> you love to abuse and be abused -
>
> In psychology it is called 'sadomaschism'
>
> Read the book 'screw the roses and send me the thorns'
>
> you are ok!
>
>
> --- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Ennai Emattrinaal"
> <krshna78@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > No Vinatha. No Daniele. I think Shakesphere is wrong. Why should
I
> > love Lisa when I dont even know how She looks? now that i know
how
> > Vinatha looked when she was a BUD and also Dani when was a TULIP.
> >
> > But this Lisa.. i have no clue. and MORE OVER Lisa is Older than
> Dani
> > and Elder to Akhila and Padmini..
> >
> > So why Should I be mad after Lisa?
> >
> > why should I ever miss her?
> >
> > why should I keep on checking the groups
> > and check my e mail if Lisa has replied to My messages at all?
> >
> > why should i ever care.. if Lisa is on the net or not?
> >
> > why Should i even bother to check if LIsa has posted any messages
> in
> > her Blog?
> >
> > why should I even care to check if she is on the net by
frequently
> > check the Blogs and Note Book blogs of Lisa if she is on the net
or
> > not?
> >
> > why shoudl I even spend my time to worry if Lisa is ever on the
> net,,
> >
> > or even care .,. if she is attending any spritual convention?
> >
> > after all
> >
> > Lisa awarded a title that i am
> > a Schizophrenic !
> >
> > that i am of a aplit mind?
> >
> > why should i even think of LIsa
> >
> > who has abused me so much?
> >
> > why should i even worry
> > if Lisa is feeling well or not?
> >
> > after all
> >
> > Lisa thinks I am not worthy of HER love
> >
> > so why should i even Dream of Being worthy of the love of LIsa?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sonnet 130 (shakespeare)
> >
> > My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;
> > Coral is far more red than her lips' red;
> > If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
> > If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.
> > I have seen roses damask'd, red and white,
> > But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
> > And in some perfumes is there more delight
> > Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.
> > I love to hear her speak, yet well I know
> > That music hath a far more pleasing sound;
> > I grant I never saw a goddess go;
> > My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground:
> > And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare
> > As any she belied with false compare.
> >
>

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Re: Why Shakesphere says that I Should love Lisa Dewit?

2008-08-18T15:23:00.000-07:00

my dear watson !

you love to abuse and be abused -

In psychology it is called 'sadomaschism'

Read the book 'screw the roses and send me the thorns'

you are ok!

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Ennai Emattrinaal"
<krshna78@...> wrote:
>
>
> No Vinatha. No Daniele. I think Shakesphere is wrong. Why should I
> love Lisa when I dont even know how She looks? now that i know how
> Vinatha looked when she was a BUD and also Dani when was a TULIP.
>
> But this Lisa.. i have no clue. and MORE OVER Lisa is Older than
Dani
> and Elder to Akhila and Padmini..
>
> So why Should I be mad after Lisa?
>
> why should I ever miss her?
>
> why should I keep on checking the groups
> and check my e mail if Lisa has replied to My messages at all?
>
> why should i ever care.. if Lisa is on the net or not?
>
> why Should i even bother to check if LIsa has posted any messages
in
> her Blog?
>
> why should I even care to check if she is on the net by frequently
> check the Blogs and Note Book blogs of Lisa if she is on the net or
> not?
>
> why shoudl I even spend my time to worry if Lisa is ever on the
net,,
>
> or even care .,. if she is attending any spritual convention?
>
> after all
>
> Lisa awarded a title that i am
> a Schizophrenic !
>
> that i am of a aplit mind?
>
> why should i even think of LIsa
>
> who has abused me so much?
>
> why should i even worry
> if Lisa is feeling well or not?
>
> after all
>
> Lisa thinks I am not worthy of HER love
>
> so why should i even Dream of Being worthy of the love of LIsa?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sonnet 130 (shakespeare)
>
> My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;
> Coral is far more red than her lips' red;
> If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
> If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.
> I have seen roses damask'd, red and white,
> But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
> And in some perfumes is there more delight
> Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.
> I love to hear her speak, yet well I know
> That music hath a far more pleasing sound;
> I grant I never saw a goddess go;
> My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground:
> And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare
> As any she belied with false compare.
>

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Kaanal Neer Lisa Ennai Manandhaal !

2008-08-18T15:11:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lisa ennai Marandhaal <krshna78@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Kaanal Neer Lisa Ennai Manandhaal !
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

En kaadhalo Un Kangalukku

Ettatha Oru Mayam

Ennadee Pennanee

Engallam Thedinen

Ingu nee vandhhai

Ingu en Manam Malarndhana

Neeyo ennai marandhaai

En Kngalin Neer Unnai
Un adaikkalam Naadina

Naan En ariveen

Neeyo Oru Kaanl neer

Fw: [ShivaYoga] Muslims and Music and Hindus/ Garanas and Bhimsen Joshi

2008-08-18T12:32:00.000-07:00

ddha

Bade Ghulam Ali Khan / Allah Rekha/Zakhir Hussein/ Garanas of Jaipur tradition.. isnt this interesting that several Legends such as Bhimsen Joshi of Karnataka were tought by Muslim Musicians?

Kishori known as " gana Saraswathy" was tutored by her mother,

But several Muslim Artistes , took interest in Signing HIndu Devotional songs such as

Sarod Ali AMjad Khan, Ali AKbhar Khan,

Shenoy Bismillah Khan

Saint Kabeer,

Music has no religion in my view.

Music is Spiriutal

now a days thanks to Internet and U tube

i am listening to

Jugal Bandhi of

the Glorious Legend and My fav

Balamurali Krishna with Bhimsen JOshi and

with Kishori amonkar..

the thillanas of balamurali are scintillating

and Please listen to

the BBC PRoms.. of

the great pandit Chowrasya ( baasuri)

and Woooooww

Pandit Ravi Kumar Sharma and

Zakhir Hussein ( tabla)

We organised a Jugal Bhandi in Cheenai of

Zakhir Hussein and Ravi Kumar sharma

this Zakhir Hussein is so cute.

being a musim, , he Prostrates before great musicians !

Music is a GOD to me..

after I listened to Chowrasya ..

I was ashamed to even say that I can hold my baasuri..

In my next birth, i would very much want to be born as

Chowrasya, and in all my succeding births as

Ravishankar, Balamurali, Bhimsen,,

woooooooo

Music is even more intoxicating than love and sex

well

Music is love

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Iam a doorkeeper of the Heart , NOT A LUMP OF WET CLAY!

2008-08-18T10:31:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Iam a doorkeeper of the Heart , NOT A LUMP OF WET CLAY!
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

am fully qualified to work as a doorkeeper, and for this reason:
What is inside me, I don't let out:
What is outside me, I don't let in.
If someone comes in, he goes right out again.
He has nothing to do with me at all.
I am a Doorkeeper of the Heart, not a lump of wet clay.

Rabia

Hey Krshna - my new name for you is

Aashiq mehboob khan!

Lover and beloved

for lowen it is

MUSTAFA Rafi Ahmed KHAN

and chitta it is

Nadir Nafasat Sher Khan!

( nadir means extraordinary , nafasat means refined and sher means lion )

AND OF COURSE I am

RAZIA SULTANA!

Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Re: Music and Soul!

2008-08-18T09:44:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: RamaKrishnan <krshna78@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Re: Music and Soul!
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

Adi.. now.. I want you to .. use your Divine Wisdom..

I want you to think of an Avatar in Kali Yuga..
say Maithreya or

krshna of Dwapara yuga .. if he were to INcarnate in this Kali YGUA

WHAT WOULD BE his role?

I did ask Ahoka to suggest some singers to me .. to listen to

but.. YOu have done it..

and I shall now.. listen to it..

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16@...>
wrote:

>
>
> Krshna :
>
> No matter what platform you speak from, you are full of 'Love' - it
does
> not matter whether it is about sex, politics or religion or music -
you
> speak from the heart. The Religion of LOVE as ibn arabi would put
it!
> You remember there was a time when i was your worst crituic , now i
am
> your best admirer!
>
> Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the
mind,
> flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to
> everything. says our beloved Plato!
>
> Without Music , there is no soul ! and if there is no 'soul' in
music ,
> it is lifeless!
>
> The Brown sahebs gave India Roads , Education ( they made Indians
the
> best clerks)and pen pushers) and of course how to drink 'high' tea!
The
> Mughals taught us HOW TO MAKE MUSIC, HOW TO DANCE AND COMPOSE
POEMS .
> TtHE MUGHALS LOOTED AND PLUNDERED BHARATA MATA AND DESTROYED OUR
TEMPLES
> AND SACRED SHRINES but both the British and Mughals taught Indians
how
> not to Govern ! \Hence , hindus are in this pitiable state today
because
> THEY HAVE NOT MASTERED THE ART OF SELF-GOVERNMENT! This IS WHAT
HAPPENS
> TO VICTIMS OF 'ABUSE ' - THEY CANNOT 'THINK' FOR THEMSELVES!
>
> It is 'music' that brings peopler together and it is religion that
> separates them!
>
> My favorite sufi bhakta Kabir dasji says :
>
> "Music without words means leaving behind the mind. and leaving
behind
> the mind is meditation . Meditation returns to the source and the
source
> of all is Sound! "
>
> HINDUS CALL IT 'OM' AND MUSLIMS CALL IT 'HU' - SAME NOTES ,
DIFFERENT
> MELODIES BUT THE UNDERLYING MESSAGE IS THE SAME - love all your
> brothers!
>
> Krishna - please listen to this song of .O.S.ARUN on YOU TUBE - he
sings
> the same Asthapadi in four different styles! A lovely synthesis!
>
> http://u.k.youtube.com/watch?v=GWIRP5MTN4g8feauture =related
> <http://u.k.youtube.com/watch?v=GWIRP5MTN4g8feauture =related>
>
> ENJOY - the soul reaches new heights and depths in Music
>
> LOVE
>
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>
> RtHEY WRITE hings valuable and everlasting but they also robbed us
of
> our
>

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Music and Soul!

2008-08-18T09:43:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Music and Soul!
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

Krshna :

No matter what platform you speak from, you are full of 'Love' - it does not matter whether it is about sex, politics or religion or music - you speak from the heart. The Religion of LOVE as ibn arabi would put it! You remember there was a time when i was your worst crituic , now i am your best admirer!

Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. says our beloved Plato!

Without Music , there is no soul ! and if there is no 'soul' in music , it is lifeless!

The Brown sahebs gave India Roads , Education ( they made Indians the best clerks)and pen pushers) and of course how to drink 'high' tea! The Mughals taught us HOW TO MAKE MUSIC, HOW TO DANCE AND COMPOSE POEMS . TtHE MUGHALS LOOTED AND PLUNDERED BHARATA MATA AND DESTROYED OUR TEMPLES AND SACRED SHRINES but both the British and Mughals taught Indians how not to Govern ! \Hence , hindus are in this pitiable state today because THEY HAVE NOT MASTERED THE ART OF SELF-GOVERNMENT! This IS WHAT HAPPENS TO VICTIMS OF 'ABUSE ' - THEY CANNOT 'THINK' FOR THEMSELVES!

It is 'music' that brings peopler together and it is religion that separates them!

My favorite sufi bhakta Kabir dasji says :

"Music without words means leaving behind the mind. and leaving behind the mind is meditation . Meditation returns to the source and the source of all is Sound! "

HINDUS CALL IT 'OM' AND MUSLIMS CALL IT 'HU' - SAME NOTES , DIFFERENT MELODIES BUT THE UNDERLYING MESSAGE IS THE SAME - love all your brothers!

Krishna - please listen to this song of .O.S.ARUN on YOU TUBE - he sings the same Asthapadi in four different styles! A lovely synthesis!

http://u.k.youtube.com/watch?v=GWIRP5MTN4g8feauture =related

ENJOY - the soul reaches new heights and depths in Music

LOVE

RtHEY WRITE hings valuable and everlasting but they also robbed us of our

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Re: Kula

2008-08-18T02:30:00.000-07:00

Rose, you've gone away... but your scent lingers in my breath...

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, Lind Lind <boudecia_purple@...>
wrote:
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> Pilgrim, I am following you. The desert night has an abating odour
of releasing storm. And I am a traveller in the timelessness of a
painting. The flowers are from the dragon's breath, where laughter
and sarcasm are but a creative crevice upon a mountain biting it's
own tail. My bare feet touch, scorch and blister from his
bitterÂ tongue, in the circle of mankind.
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> --- On Thu, 14/8/08, Chittaranjan Naik <chittaranjan_naik@...>
wrote:
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> From: Chittaranjan Naik <chittaranjan_naik@...>
> Subject: [ShivaYoga] Kula
> To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, 14 August, 2008, 12:05 AM
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>
>
> Mathaa cha Parvathy Devi,
> Pithaas cha Maheswara
> Bandhawa Shiva Bhakatamscha,
> Swadesho Bhuvana Trayam.
>
> My mother is Goddess Parvathy
> My father is God Maheswara,
> My relations are the devotees of Shiva,
> And my country is the universe.
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Fw: [Sathya Sai Baba] Healing Blessings to Mrs Neelam Sinha

2008-08-17T22:13:00.001-07:00

4:57/ Mrs Leelam Sihna will be completely healed within

48 Days, and the HIP will begin to Hop.
Who is Mrs neelam Sinha?

Deepa and her Debut and Debates with SHiridi Sai , has reached the
Divine Ears of Swami

Fw: [Sathya Sai Baba] Re: Indian Independence Day

2008-08-17T22:13:00.000-07:00

Independece/ the very worb begins with IND.
India makes other nations Dependent On HER

and in the prcoess SHE loses her IDentity of Ind E Pendence.

India is Penace and Sets other Free from Dependence

--- In sathyasaibaba2@yahoogroups.com, "hmdaswani" <hmdaswani@...>
wrote:
>
> Is India truly Independent? Was India ever dependent? What is
> independence?
>

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] a Dose of humor when you are rewritingt scriptures!

2008-08-17T19:04:00.000-07:00

Mullah Nasruddin went on a pilgrimage to Mecca, and on the way he passed
through Medina. As he was walking by the main mosque there, a rather
confused
looking tourist approached him. "Excuse me sir," said the
tourist, "but
you look like a native of these parts; can you tell me something about
this mosque? It looks very old and important, but I've lost my
guidebook."
Nasruddin, being too proud to admit that he, too, had no idea what it
was,
immediately began an enthusiastic explanation. "This is indeed a
very old
and special mosque." he declared, "It was built by Alexander the
Great
to commemorate his conquest of Arabia." The tourist was suitably
impressed,
but presently a look of doubt crossed his face. "But how can that
be?"
he asked, "I'm sure that Alexander was a Greek or something, not
a Muslim.
. . Wasn't he?" "I can see that you know something of these
matters." replied
Nasruddin with chagrin, "In fact, Alexander was so impressed at his
good
fortune in war that he converted to Islam in order to show his gratitude
to God." "Oh, wow." said the tourist, then paused. "Hey,
but surely there
was no such thing as Islam in Alexander's time?" "An
excellent point! It
is truly gratifying to meet a visitor who understands our history so
well,"
answered Nasruddin. "As a matter of fact, he was so overwhelmed by
the
generosity God had shown him that as soon as the fighting was over he
began
a new religion, and became the founder of Islam." The tourist looked
at
the mosque with new respect, but before Nasruddin could quietly slip
into
the passing crowd, another problem occurred to him. "But wasn't
the founder
of Islam named Mohammed? I mean, that's what I read in a book; at
least
I'm sure it wasn't Alexander." "I can see that you are a
scholar of some
learning," said Nasruddin, "I was just getting to that.
Alexander felt
that he could properly dedicate himself to his new life as a prophet
only
by adopting a new identity. So, he gave up his old name and for the rest
of his life called himself Mohammed." "Really?" wondered the
tourist, "That's
amazing! Butbut I thought that Alexander the Great lived a long
time
before Mohammed? Is that right?" "Certainly not!" answered
the Mullah,
"You're thinking of a different Alexander the Great. I'm
talking about
the one named Mohammed."

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Re: Love is a philosophy!

2008-08-17T13:02:00.000-07:00

if pope can kiss the Koran and if a staunch hindu can kiss hinduism goodbye , adi ma can kiss anyone and everyone and not feel one bit guilty ? after all what is in A Kiss!

See! the mountains kiss high heaven,
And the waves clasp one another;
No sister flower would be forgiven
If it disdained its brother;
And the sunlight clasps the earth,
And the moonbeams kiss the sea: -
What are all these kissings worth,
If thou kiss not me?
~Percy Bysshe Shelley, Love's Philosophy

Embrace each other and kiss ! do not embrace anything else ! very risky!

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Karpa Rakshambika" <krshna78@...> wrote:
>
> But Thou can KiSs
>
> --- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" adi_shakthi16@
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thou shall not 'steal' ''
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "lovelowenv" <lovelowenv@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chitta is making an e-book
> > > the bible the koran of the 21st century
> > > so dear members
> > > please do not delete the wonderful messages
> > > love
> > > p.s
> > > we need to focus on creation rather than than on deletion
> > > remember maldec wes deleted
> > > we do not want to repeat history
> > >
> >
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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Conversations of the devine beings 4

2008-08-17T13:01:00.000-07:00

Ignatius Vaz: hey you wrote all this this is devine
Ignatius Vaz: ashoka dear
BUZZ!!!
Ashoka Harichandan: i met this mother
Ashoka Harichandan: she came from bangalore
Ashoka Harichandan: i sang this soing
Ashoka Harichandan: it flowed form me
Ashoka Harichandan: and
Ashoka Harichandan: she became
Ashoka Harichandan: Lalita
Ignatius Vaz: who is lalita
Ashoka Harichandan: i am resting
Ignatius Vaz: ok
Ashoka Harichandan: see u tomorrow
Ignatius Vaz: ok
Ashoka Harichandan: love
Ignatius Vaz: love you
Ashoka Harichandan:
Ashoka Harichandan: Ma Tara
Ignatius Vaz: take care
Ignatius Vaz: bye

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Conversations of the devine beings 3

2008-08-17T13:00:00.000-07:00

Ashoka Harichandan: June 10th
Ashoka Harichandan: i wrote Shyam
Ashoka Harichandan: to dance with me
Ashoka Harichandan: Dance
Dear Shyam, if you wish to talk
With me let us both take a walk
Through the glades of vrindavan
Through the shades of nidhivan!

Let us dance both you and I
Where the yamuna flows nigh
Moon showers silver cool beams
We have done this before it seems!

The stars glitter in a clear dark sky
The forest creatures stay close by
We are lost in dance and glide
Effortlessly swing side to side!

Forget how I reached there
There is a magic in the air
Time is forgotten with the mind
Shyam will you please be kind!

Then I glimpsed ShriRadhe there
She is the one who led me there
Then quickly merged in you to share
This lovely dance with a maiden fair!

Ashoka Harichandan:
At the Lotus Feet Of Radhe Shyam June 10th 2008
Ashoka Harichandan: are u here
BUZZ!!!
Ignatius Vaz: hey
Ashoka Harichandan: ya
Ashoka Harichandan: u have to sleep
Ashoka Harichandan: also
Ashoka Harichandan: rest
Ashoka Harichandan: Ma Translated
Koti Koti Santana Je Jagate Achhanti Tora
Ma Boli Dakile Ki Sunibu Janani Mora)

This world has crores of your children dear Ma
Will you listen dear Mother if I call you "Ma" ?

(Snehabhara Kole Toli Karibu Mate Aadara
Ma Boli Dakile Ki Sunibu Tu Ma Mora)

Gather me gently to your affectionate lap Ma
Will you listen My Mother if I call you "Ma" ?

(Mathhaare To Rakhi Debi Gagana Chhumbi Mukuta
Ma Boli Dakile Ki Asibu Tu Mo Nikata)

Ashoka Harichandan: Will place a crown on your head touching the sky
If I call you dear Mother then will you come nigh ?

(Galare To Pindhhaibi Tara Chandramara Hara
Ma Boli Dakile Ki Asibu Tu Ma Mora)

Will garland your neck with the stars and the moon
If I call you dear Mother then will you come soon ?

(Chhota Mo Samsaare Jebe Bhetibi Santana Tora
Aadare Koloku Nei Debi Mun Saraaga Tora)

Ashoka Harichandan: (Chhota Mo Samsaare Jebe Bhetibi Santana Tora
Aadare Koloku Nei Debi Mun Saraaga Tora)

In my small world If I ever meet your children
Show them affection that only you have given !

Ashoka Harichandan: Brahma Vishnu Maheswara Khatanti Jaara Payara
Tripura Sundari Sehi Tripurare Vaasa Taara)

Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh serve you O dear Mother
Tripura Sundari you are and TRI PURA indweller!

Ashoka Harichandan: (Triguna Atita Puni Trigunare Khela Tora
Ma Boli Dakile Ki Triguna Jiba Mohara )

Beyond the Three Gunas, yet play with the Gunas
By calling you "Ma" will I rise above the Gunas ?

Ashoka Harichandan: (To Kabacha Paile Ma Lagena Samsara Bhara
Ma Boli Dakile Ki Sunibu Janani Mora)

Receiving your armour the world stops to bother
If I call you "Ma will you listen dearest Mother ?

To Abhaya Haste Ma Go Rakhya Pau To Samsaara
Tora Krupa Thau Ma Go Moha Lagi Nirantara

Your Fearless Hands Raised in Boon
Let it save your world and let your grace be constant upon me...

At the Lotus Feet Of "Ma" and her devotees

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Conversations of the devine beings 2

2008-08-17T12:59:00.000-07:00

Ashoka Harichandan: u do all the work ma tara
Ashoka Harichandan: people think they do
Ashoka Harichandan: u make the lame wwalk
Ashoka Harichandan: u make the bkind see
Ignatius Vaz: hmmm you know she can touch you and take away the karma
ok part of it at least
Ashoka Harichandan: u will
Ashoka Harichandan: ur will is paramount
Ashoka Harichandan: Ami Yantra
Ashoka Harichandan: Tumi Yantri
Ashoka Harichandan: Ami Ratha
Ashoka Harichandan: Tumi Rami
Ashoka Harichandan: Icchamayee Tara Tumi
Ashoka Harichandan: Tomaar Karma Tumi aro Ma
Ashoka Harichandan: LOke Bale Kari Ami
Ashoka Harichandan: Happy Raksha Bandhan
On this Raksha Bandhan Day
Let all be safe with you Lord
This from my heart I do pray
For all to walk with you Lord!

Your Love let them feel today
And throughout the life Lord
Without your Love each day
I feel that none is safe Lord!

The bright full moon of Love
Shines on every being Lord
We grope in dark lose Love
Please remove our veil Lord!

Rakhee you tie on our hand
That cannot be seen O Lord
This will make us withstand
All making us strong O Lord!

August 16th 2008
Ignatius Vaz: wow
Ashoka Harichandan: June 10th
Ashoka Harichandan: i wrote Shyam
Ashoka Harichandan: to dance with me

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Conversations of the devine beings

2008-08-17T12:58:00.000-07:00

Ashoka Harichandan: i am resting
Ashoka Harichandan: drinking ater
Ignatius Vaz: hi
Ashoka Harichandan: taking pumo
Ignatius Vaz: pumo
Ashoka Harichandan: one message is delted
Ignatius Vaz: ???
Ashoka Harichandan: pumps
Ashoka Harichandan: are inhalors
Ignatius Vaz: which message dear
Ashoka Harichandan: ashoka harichandan
Ashoka Harichandan: now only yours laeft
Ignatius Vaz: who deleted it
Ashoka Harichandan: ok
Ashoka Harichandan: here now
Ignatius Vaz: hey
Ashoka Harichandan: drank orange juice
Ignatius Vaz: how are you feeling dear
Ignatius Vaz: ok
Ashoka Harichandan: better
Ignatius Vaz: e-mail some
Ashoka Harichandan: i was weak inthe morning
Ignatius Vaz: how much better dear
Ashoka Harichandan: well
Ignatius Vaz: able to run or talk
Ashoka Harichandan: i tried to to be still
Ashoka Harichandan: avoice weak
Ignatius Vaz: ok
Ashoka Harichandan: still
Ignatius Vaz: so run
Ignatius Vaz: anyway you will cintinue to improve
Ignatius Vaz: drink more of that juice
Ashoka Harichandan: but u r gettiing drained why
Ignatius Vaz: must be a magic juice
Ashoka Harichandan: i hate that
Ignatius Vaz: do not worry dear
Ashoka Harichandan: i will
Ashoka Harichandan: i believe
Ashoka Harichandan: if we talk to the Holy Ghost
Ashoka Harichandan: He will fill us with more and more
Ignatius Vaz: for get the holy gost
Ashoka Harichandan: then who is ur guru
Ashoka Harichandan: isnt jesus ur Guru
Ashoka Harichandan: u said ur guru was in the bosy
Ashoka Harichandan: body
Ashoka Harichandan: is it Ralph ?
Ignatius Vaz: no dear
Ashoka Harichandan: is it krshna
Ashoka Harichandan: why chiita calls him guruji
Ignatius Vaz: krishna yes and i also have another
Ashoka Harichandan: krishnaas in god krishna
Ignatius Vaz: but this one that helps you is another
Ashoka Harichandan: or krshna78
Ignatius Vaz: both
Ashoka Harichandan: and u have another
Ashoka Harichandan: and anoter
Ashoka Harichandan: to more ?
Ignatius Vaz: why not
Ashoka Harichandan: two more ?
Ignatius Vaz: 'total two
Ashoka Harichandan: OK
Ignatius Vaz: one out of the body
Ashoka Harichandan: is it ok
Ashoka Harichandan: to know
Ashoka Harichandan: the name
Ashoka Harichandan: i am not forcing
Ignatius Vaz: of which one
Ignatius Vaz: out or in the body
Ashoka Harichandan: this one i know him
Ashoka Harichandan: in the body = krshna78
Ignatius Vaz: yes
Ashoka Harichandan: am i right
Ashoka Harichandan: out of the body -= jesus
Ignatius Vaz: no
Ashoka Harichandan: am i right
Ashoka Harichandan: then babaji
Ignatius Vaz: the name is
Ignatius Vaz: TARA
Ashoka Harichandan: as in Mother
Ashoka Harichandan: Tara
Ignatius Vaz: the only one who does not follow the rules
Ashoka Harichandan: hahahahaha
Ashoka Harichandan: i thought i am the naughty one
Ashoka Harichandan: getting scloding for not following rules
Ignatius Vaz: the rules of planet earth the rules of non interferance
Ashoka Harichandan: Ma Tara
Ignatius Vaz: do you know her
Ashoka Harichandan: yes
Ignatius Vaz: how come
Ashoka Harichandan: well love
Ashoka Harichandan: Mother loves me
Ashoka Harichandan: u know since birth
Ashoka Harichandan: i was so sure of my love
Ashoka Harichandan: no one understood me
Ashoka Harichandan: i loee all unconditionally
Ashoka Harichandan: annd then they scolded me
Ashoka Harichandan: this that
Ashoka Harichandan: Guru came when i was 9
Ashoka Harichandan: but when i am in trouble
Ashoka Harichandan: I yell Ma
Ignatius Vaz: ok
Ignatius Vaz: so tell me about TARA
BUZZ!!!
Ashoka Harichandan: i am here
Ashoka Harichandan: ok
Ashoka Harichandan: Tara is revered
Ashoka Harichandan: in all cultures
Ashoka Harichandan: all religions
Ashoka Harichandan: Dasa Mahavidya
Ashoka Harichandan: Ugra Tara
Ashoka Harichandan: is worshipped in Oroissa
Ashoka Harichandan: in Orissa
Ashoka Harichandan: is it a sjkti peeth
Ashoka Harichandan: Shakti Peeth
Ashoka Harichandan: In Bhubaneshwar
Ashoka Harichandan: so
Ignatius Vaz: so what
Ashoka Harichandan: Tara Peeth
Ashoka Harichandan: is
Ashoka Harichandan: there worshipped by Vama Khepa
Ashoka Harichandan: a great Tantrik
Ashoka Harichandan: wait i am shoing u my mother poems
Ignatius Vaz: hey you need that rest dear

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Re: Saman's beats

2008-08-17T12:46:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nakuleswari Leeseshwari <krshna78@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Re: Saman's beats
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

IF you turn us to a Woman, then You need to become a MusliM Man.
And I was Informed that Circuscised Men perform better.

You dance on Ashes , we will dance on Hashish and Remember it is Our
ashes that Glorify Your Fore head

August 8th has passed saman,
and I am not sure what happened on that day.
---------

Your Profile has no Kelas ( bananas).
You are Hiding something?

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "samanbliss" <j.blom27@...> wrote:
>
> ---
> >HH you are right these quotes are old now and need a change.
> Now I will dance my Kali dance on the ashes and wish all these men
> with stupid ideas of possesion and surpressing burn in hell and in
> their next life become a woman..including my moslim lover.
>
>
> MM
>
>
> --- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Radhe Lisa" <krshna78@> wrote
>
> > "making fire look into the flames and burning ashes. and play the
> drums"
> > Quotes Saman Bliss.
> >
> > We Men Like to beat women,
> > Yes Those Beats are Born to be beaten
> >
> > You Beat our DRUMS !
> > A stick with two Tom TOm Snares
> >
> > What do you expect from Men
> > when you do a Bhutu Dance?
> >
> > go and eat two Kelas a day !
> > you mentioned Uploading a new photo graph
> > there is none?
> > You missed your beats
> >
>

Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Re: Saman's beats

2008-08-17T12:44:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: samanbliss <j.blom27@chello.nl>
Date: Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Re: Saman's beats
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

---
>HH you are right these quotes are old now and need a change.
Now I will dance my Kali dance on the ashes and wish all these men
with stupid ideas of possesion and surpressing burn in hell and in
their next life become a woman..including my moslim lover.

MM

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Radhe Lisa" <krshna78@...> wrote

> "making fire look into the flames and burning ashes. and play the
drums"
> Quotes Saman Bliss.
>
> We Men Like to beat women,
> Yes Those Beats are Born to be beaten
>
> You Beat our DRUMS !
> A stick with two Tom TOm Snares
>
> What do you expect from Men
> when you do a Bhutu Dance?
>
> go and eat two Kelas a day !
> you mentioned Uploading a new photo graph
> there is none?
> You missed your beats
>

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Re: PRAISE BE TO THE LORD/ Ahoka

2008-08-17T12:17:00.000-07:00

Dear Ashoka

This Phrase "Praise be to the Lord " is the way we greet Pentecostal

christians..

as Expected a very satwick and divine poem and thanks for Posting it,

your energy will be alive in this Group and Your blessings are always

there for us.

Vandhanam

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Hates krshna78" <krshna78@... >

wrote:

> Blessings to You Divine Ashoka

> --- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Ashoka" <ashoka_h@ > wrote:

> >

> > HARA Remover Of Sorrow Bestower Of Bliss

> >

> > Everywhere I have looked have only seen thee

> > Lord I felt love and blessings pouring from thee

> > This is not described in the scriptures as a path

> > Freedom of every soul is to find one's own path!

> >

> > As many beings that many paths you have said

> > I have loved all O Lord yet it is you I proclaimed

> > When I meet a soul I behold your beauty alone

> > Love pours forth, joy unbounded you feel alone!

> >

> > Nothing belongs to me I know and yet all is mine

> > For you are in my heart Lord, all beings are thine

> > The Infinite is way beyond this little mind of mine

> > Yet so much joy when I remember it is also thine!

> >

> > On this day Lord please bless your world with love

> > So they will know you and feel blessed from above

> > You accept all souls for you created them with love

> > Let them accept each other in your name with love!

> >

> > Humbly Your Child

> >

Fw: [womanthouartgod] Re: PROMOTION

2008-08-17T10:48:00.000-07:00

THAT IS SO KIND OF YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
PLEASE NOTICE FRIENDS & FOLLOWERS HOW I PROMOTE THOSE WHO ARE DOING
HARD WORK, LIKE DR. BOYD ED. GRAVES & OTHERS, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE
DOING THE GOOD WORK...WHY CAN'T YOU ALL DO THE SAME FOR MY WORK?
LIKE JEN DID HERE...
RASA--- In womanthouartgod@yahoogroups.com, "m.tara21"
<m.tara21@...> wrote:
>
> --- In womanthouartgod@yahoogroups.com, "Rasa Von Werder" wrote:
>
> > IT WOULD BE EXPEDIENT IF YOU WOULD PUT AS MANY
> > OF MY VIDEOS ON YOUR FAVES & PLAYLISTS & SEND
> > LINKS TO YOUR FRIENDS & MAILING LISTS, WITH
> > DESCRIPTIONS EXPLAINING THE VIDEOS. WHEN YOU
> > HAVE DONE THIS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO I CAN
> > THANK YOU.
> > RASA@...
> > PSS SEX IS NOT JUST FOR PROCREATION, FUCK PATRIARCHY,....
>
> Beloved, just wanted to let you know I have a link to
> your YouTube site on my blog here, http://roseblogs.blogspot.com
> So, whoever visits there can see the link to You and (I hope) go
there.
>
> Love,
> Jen
>

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Fw: [ShivaYoga] Re: AMARNATH - THE HOLY SHRINE - P.eaceful co existence !....

2008-08-17T10:45:00.000-07:00

Adi,
In thiruppathy Devasthanam Too, we need to visit a Mosque
and the same in Sabari Malai Ayyappan.

More than a coicidence between Hindu temples and SHia Mosques

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16@...>
wrote:
>
> Our Respected Ralph Ali Mahdi Khan writes :
>
> (Objectively speaking, Amarnath is a (divine) ice-sculpture that
> returns every year in a large cave that was discovered by a
> Musselman.)
>
> Yes! dear hearts ! this is also one of the legends surrounding the
> discoevery of the cave.
>
> The Mussalman who discovered the cave was a shepherd named Buta
> Malik.According to an ancient tale,
> Buta Malik who was given a sack of coal by a sadhu. Upon reaching
> home he discovered that the sack, in fact, contained gold.
Overjoyed
> and overcome, Buta Malik rushed back to look for the sadhu and
thank
> him, but on the spot of their meeting discovered a cave, and
> eventually this became a place of pilgrimage for all believers. To
> date, a percentage of the donations made by pilgrims are given to
the
> descendants of Malik. and the remaining to the trust which manages
> the shrine.
>
>
> I am not able to understand any of this - Hindus and muslims have
> always prayed side by side all these years in close proximity ! In
> fact , in Benaras ,where the famous Kashi Vishwanath temple is
> located ,there is a mosque built by the despot Aurangazeb! when i
> visited Benaras in the winter of 1990 with my mother, i visited
both
> the Jyothirlingam of the Kahi vishwanath temple and thee mosque! My
> lips were chanting the swacred Om Namaha shivaye but my kness were
> stouching tshe ground in a prayerful position! As our beloved Rumi
> says there are hundreds of ways of kneeing and kissing the ground!
to
> each his own!
>
> Now , take the case of the Kapalesshwerar kovik in mylapre,Chennai,
> india !
>
> "There is an interesting legend about the temple tank. The temple
did
> not have a tank and the present tank at the temple belonged to
Nawab
> Mohammed Ali, the Nawab of Arcot. It is said that a delegation of
> priests and devotees met the Nawab and impressed upon him, that it
> was an absolute necessity for a temple to have a tank. The
benevolent
> Nawab gifted the tank to the temple. However, at that time Shia
> Muslim brethrens were already using this tank for immersion of
Panjas
> (Tajias) on the day of Moharram. The tank was gifted to the temple
on
> the condition that Shia brethren would continue to use it for
> Moharrum. This practice continues till date. The descendants of the
> Nawab of Arcot have shown goodwill towards the temple from time to
> time. The present Prince of Arcot, Janab Mohammed Abdul Ali visited
> the temple and tank on the eve of 'Teppam Festival' and had darshan
> of the Lord in the Teppam. He was bestowed with temple honours. The
> Lord at Mylapore is all pervasive, all embracive. He truly belongs
to
> all. "Shiva iva the most compassionate god is also known as Rahim ,
> the compassionate!
>
>
> WHEN YOU VISIT ADI SHANKARA'S KANCHI KAMAKOTI PEETHAM IN kanchi,
> tamilnadu , india in the morning , you can hear the loudspeakers
> bradcasting Kamakshi Suprabhatam! At the same time , you can hear
the
> sound of 'Allah ho Akbar'// from the loudspeakers of the nearby
> mosque!
>
> There is an interesting legend about the temple tank. The temple
did
> not have a tank and the present tank at the temple belonged to
Nawab
> Mohammed Ali, the Nawab of Arcot. It is said that a delegation of
> priests and devotees met the Nawab and impressed upon him, that it
> was an absolute necessity for a temple to have a tank. The
benevolent
> Nawab gifted the tank to the temple. However, at that time Shia
> Muslim brethrens were already using this tank for immersion of
Panjas
> (Tajias) on the day of Moharram. The tank was gifted to the temple
on
> the condition that Shia brethren would continue to use it for
> Moharrum. This practice continues till date. The descendants of the
> Nawab of Arcot have shown goodwill towards the temple from time to
> time. The present Prince of Arcot, Janab Mohammed Abdul Ali visited
> the temple and tank on the eve of 'Teppam Festival' and had darshan
> of the Lord in the Teppam. He was bestowed with temple honours. The
> Lord at Mylapore is all pervasive, all embracive. He truly belongs
to
> all.
>
> "Shiva is Rahim, the most compassionate one!
>
> The month of Shravan(july -august) is very important for Hindus
where
> they fast and pray to Lord SHIVA !
>
> sO, kASHMIRAVASIS , DO NOT CUT THE NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE! YOU
NEED
> TOURISTS FOR YOUR ECONOMY! DOES NOT MAYTTER WHO THE TOURISTS ARE!
> HIINDU PILGRIMS, HONEYMOONERS , MOVIE MAKERS AND WESTERNERS!
>
> my 2 cents
>

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Re: more Kisses to follow![

2008-08-17T10:01:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Karpa Rakshambika <krshna78@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Re: more Kisses to follow![
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

Re: more Kisses to follow![

you are damn right about LISA/ Kiss me not !

One day while she is asleep I will kiss her.

Adi . you need to listen to Jugal Bhandi of my Fav Singer

Dr M Balamurali and " gana Saraswathi" " and Padhma Booshan

" Kishori Amonkar "

She is Brilliant,

and both of them have rendered some Jayadev AshraPathys together

a real Blessing.

www.musicindiaonline.com

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16@...>
wrote:
>
>

> CHITTA-explosive Platonic kisses !
>
> Lowen -Parrot like 'love ' you repeat kisses !
>
> Krishna -the master thief- Stealthy kisses !
>
> Adi- Marie Antionette 'FRENCH' KISSES
>
> Haresh- En-lightening kisses !
>
> Ralph-let us go 'dutch' kisses !
>
> Branco -the sacred 'ash' kisses !
>
> Sanjay - liberating Kisses !
>
> DANIELLA - INTOXICATING kisses!
>
> Purple- Shrinking violet kisses !
>
> Ashoka- poetic kisses
>
> Rose - A KISS OF ART!
>
> Lisa - KISS ME NOT!
>
> Angel--EXPLORING KISSES !
>
> TO KISS OR HISS ? THAT IS THE QUESTION
>

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16@...>
wrote:
>
>

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Sharing a dear friends sentiment...

2008-08-17T10:00:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: yoga4you <yoga4you@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Sharing a dear friends sentiment...
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

Author Message
narinder bhandari

Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Posts: 684
Location: Panchkula( Haryana) , INDIA

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: how important it
is to be the seeker true ..........ah ! Reply with quote
Ah, fellow travellers,

to nari, one day, Krishna did say,

it is more important to be a Seeker True ,

than keeping on judging the merits of Gurus .

A seeker true

walking the Path with the Guru, (even if not a perfect Guru )

himself becomes Light ( guru)

and helps his imperfect Guru to perfection of the Light too !

ah ! permit nari to share the following with you..........

In fewest words, The Path to Light , could perhaps, be stated as follows :

1.We are what we are , at this point of Time. It could never have been
( and , can never be )otherwise .

2.When the Self is Known, all is Known. It is not that all answers are
available ( The Field of Knowledge is so vast); it is ...that..... all
Questions drop....... whatever needs to be known at a particular point
of Time ( always Herenow) is made available to The Knower of the Self
by Existence .

3. Living now is no more ' living in the Time'( Past and Future). It
is always in your own ' presence' ( awareness) in the Herenow.
Spontaneous living sans Fear , Pain, and delusion.

4.The sense of Doership disappears .

5.Intense, choiceless Love blossoms in the Heart. The Mind bows to the
Heart, to that Love.True love is understood . Judgement stops.
Discernment is spontaneous . Argument seems Meaningless. Discussion is
only out of Love; for the seeking Heart.

6.Words become Fewer, and they flower from your Silence ( Peacefulness
! ) And, They are purposeful. They have Power ( power-----not as the
world understands, but the power of God and Love...... to transform
the seeker ).

7. The Whole Process ( walking the Path ) is for Oneself. If, we were
already Enlightened .............. we shall pass the Test ( we shall
Know) by the joy of conduct ...... ( The Conduct is the Test
).Generally, it is , and will be, in accordance with the basic
principles shown ( given ) by the Knowers of Truth. We shall remain
Blissful, and Peaceful .

8. The True Seeker yearns for the Truth, his/ her own Being , with the
intensity of HERENOW. THe Desire is to end all words . The shortest Way.
No prolonging. Minimum Discussion. No argument. No imposition of ones
own Concepts. Acceptance of everyone's Being ( SEE 1 Above ),
respecting others' Being, respecting his/ her own being .

9. and finally.......( although, one could go on....... ) The way to
Light is not through ' acquisition of new knowledge, but your
willingness to drop your Knowledge ( concepts/ conditionings).
Anything that is born, has to die. True Love, True knowledge, Truth of
Being, is Unborn, Unchanging and , therefore, Undying. It is already
present in YOU, You are already That .

ah ! what more to say and how ? ( already too many words !! )

but

it would only be proper( and is nari's Joy ) to thank you all( without
Exception ) for contributing to This Moment Now. You are Beautiful !
You are That ! Satyam, Shivam, Sundaram !

http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/Forum/viewforum.php?f=1

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Fwd: [ShivaYoga] Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I knew it!

2008-08-17T09:32:00.001-07:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: yoga4you <yoga4you@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Subject: [ShivaYoga] Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I knew it!
To: shivyoga@yahoogroups.com

krshna78 is a Geek like me!

lol

hahaha

<3 dani

--- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Loves Krshna" <krshna78@...> wrote:
>
> yes Dani, you need a large Sample Size in Quantitative Research,
>
> As Opposed to Qualitatice Research where Sample Size does not play a
> signicicant role.
>
> But I like these polls, an interesting Feature and adds Variety/
> You are right, we pick up More Ouliers in a small sample Size.
>
> research in Psychiatry and Psychology are Challenging,
> as it is diffficult to do a
>
> Double Blind ramdomised control studies,
>
> Blinding is Difficult in Psychiatry and in particular
> Psychology and Physoc therapy research.
> You can do case control studes ( retrospective) , but there is recall
> bias, and Case -Control ) retrospective sutdies are fruther down in
> the Hierarchy of Research Design, althou they have thier own curical
> roles to play.
>
> Ths Polls can be compared to
> SURVEY
>
> Questinaaire Survey..
>
> where again you have a tendecy to Polairsation and
> Choose the Middle Response.
>
> i am impressed by your Knowledge on research methodology,
> My Favourite, as I used to teach
>
> statistics and research Design Methodology in
> nottingham Universtiy UK
>
>
> --- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, "yoga4you" <yoga4you@> wrote:
> >
> > I am not surprised by poll answers. So much depends on
> Identification
> > which is EXTREMELY subjective. There are ways of developing more
> > accurate ways of assessing idealogies and beliefs. Forced choice
> polls
> > may not be the best way to glean answers for certain questions.
> > Frankly, as an "out-of-the-box" thinker, forced choice answers
> nearly
> > never resemble what is in my mind personally.
> >
> > The method of assessment used in research is very important in
> regards
> > to data-analysis. If you are trying to find answers to specific
> > questions for a certain purpose development of an appropriate tool
> of
> > assessment is of paramount importance otherwise the data will not be
> > useful. Social sciences such as social work and psychology have
> > specific methods used to get answers to specific questions.
> >
> > That's my take on things. Anyway, I mentioned identification as an
> > important issue because you are assessing a small group of what
> would
> > probably qualify as mostly outliers in regards to the "norm" in the
> > first place. In other words, you have a group of pretty unique
> > thinkers here... and how they identify within themselves, in my
> > opinion, may influence the seemingly "not normal" responses...
> >
> > --- In shivyoga@yahoogroups.com, Army of forgotten Souls - the blue
> > Connection <Vision2028@> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/shivyoga/polls
> > >
> > >
> > > Responses
> > >
> > > Choices
> > > Votes
> > > %
> > > 1 reply
> > > I surely do at least one hour sadhana per day
> > > 1
> > > 2
> > >
> > > Daily i practise yoga-postures
> > > 1
> > > 2
> > >
> > > I would like to live in an ashram
> > > 2
> > > 5
> > >
> > > I am more a monk (also possible for woman - 'nun' for Shiva)
> > > 2
> > > 5
> > >
> > > We can live simple and at the same time produce lots of money as
> > > Robin Hood Shiva-devotees
> > > 3
> > > 7
> > >
> > > I want a Shiva-funeral/cremation ceremony
> > > 4
> > > 10
> > >
> > > I long to surrender to a true Shiva-guru
> > > 3
> > > 7
> > >
> > > I should study more the Shiva-scriptures
> > > 1
> > > 2
> > >
> > > I would like to wear Shiva-clothes
> > > 2
> > > 5
> > >
> > > My body is clean, pure and healthy
> > > 2
> > > 5
> > >
> > > I have feelings about the Prophesy from the Himalaya / Shiva
> > > 4
> > > 10
> > >
> > > I masturbate myself several times per week
> > > 0
> > > 0
> > >
> > > Many people talk too much
> > > 5
> > > 12
> > >
> > > Shiva offers more than Allah
> > > 0
> > > 0
> > >
> > > Shiva is superior to the God of the Jews or Christians
> > > 0
> > > 0
> > >
> > > When i am angry, i loose self-rememberance
> > > 2
> > > 5
> > >
> > > I always practise or live in multi-dimensional awareness
> > > 1
> > > 2
> > >
> > > People should breathe more consciously and fuck more
> > > 4
> > > 10
> > >
> > > It is okay to beat your wife when she disobeys or obstructs you
> > > 1
> > > 2
> > >
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> lousy world
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> > > 3
> > > 7
> > >
> > > I prefer Parvati over Kali
> > > 2
> > > 5
> > >
> > > I live celibate (for months or years)
> > > 1
> > > 2
> > >
> > > I 'have' a guru in an authentic way
> > > 2
> > > 5
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> > > I am member of this list to teach and help others
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> > > I believe in vedic ritual (homa, yagna etc)
> > > 2
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> > > Hindu's should refuse to use the christian time-count
> > > 2
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> Kashmir
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> from
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Fw: [shivayoga] Zen State

2008-08-17T08:57:00.000-07:00

Green garden bliss,
in a calm, still cool air,
Yin Yang symbol of ecru sand,
and purity white salt,
a strange choice of hue,
but,
a personal Zen...

In its very essence,
pleasure in neutrality,
flowing bliss,
tranquil in silence,
unity with nature,
all is beauty,
all converge,
merge,
into the creative sound,
OM...

Eyes remain,
half open,
half closed,
as are all the senses,
and in its very choice of bliss,
clouds play the color of gray,
as it prepares to rain,
and cleanse...

all exist
all converge
all exist
to become void,
and in void,
all exist...

light shines,
only in darkness,
as darkness is needed,
for inner light to be seen...

Letting through,
is letting go...

Breathe in deep,
Merge,
converge,
and exhale,
you are the universe...

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Fw: [shivayoga] thought

2008-08-17T08:55:00.000-07:00

Emotions love vodka,

Conscious and subconscious enjoy whiskey...

Who enjoys beer?

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